Max Kellerman on ESPN on Mayweather ABNORMALLY LOW T/E Ratio plus USADA vs. VADA

[Divine Hammer]

Pacs own coach said the shakes he took were shady and might have had something lol

nope that's hardly shady and sometimes normal practice for many conditioning coaches (keeping their methods secret as not to be stolen). freddie was on a smear campaign because ariza and him hated each other. so i wouldn't take his opinion as fact since it's cloudy with hate.

and floyd hired ariza so if ur saying ariza helps his fighters cheat so then he was helping floyd hahahahahahahahaha u dunce.

even then shakes are not even close to being daming as floyd's abnormally low t/e ratio, prohibited iv therapy with lareg amount of saline masking substance, TRT clinics, vampire facials, 3 failed tests etc.

the list is too large for floyd.

[hectari]

abnormally Low T levels on a muscular or athletic guy is highly likely from previous hormone usages.

All the UFC fighters who got caught cheating or got TUE exemptions all had super low test levels and some who even diluted their tests like Jon Jones had low test levels.

Alistair Overeem
Chael Sonnen
Vitor Belfort
Dan Henderson
Phil Baroni
Bigfoot Silva
Jon Jones
Anderson Silva
etc.

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/Vic...****ious-80631


Jones had his T/E levels measured on three occasions -- an extra test was ordered because his first sample was diluted -- as part of out-of-competition drug testing ordered by the NAC. His ratio in the three tests were 0.29:1, 0.35:1 and 0.19:1, well below the normal ratio (1.3:1) for an average African-American male, according to Conte. In addition, Jones’ testosterone levels in those three tests were 1.8 ng/mL, 0.59 ng/mL and 4.9 ng/mL; the average level for a male is 61.3 ng/ML.

However, the NAC later revealed to MMAJunkie.com that Carbon Isotope Ratio testing was performed on each of Jones’ drug tests, including a pair of post-fight samples, and the results came back clean. Although the CIR tests would be able to detect if Jones had been using exogenous testosterone, Conte remains skeptical not only of the champion’s low overall levels, but of the great variance in Jones’ T/E ratios as well.

“If they see a deviation in the T/E ratio of greater than 30 percent, there is something up. That’s a red flag,” Conte explained. “If you look at Daniel [Cormier’s] two ratios, they were .42 and .47; that’s about an eight percent deviation. If you look at the numbers for Jon Jones, his was basically an 80 percent deviation. His is su****ious and Daniel Cormier’s is not. It’s not just that he’s got very low [testosterone] levels, much lower than Daniel. Daniel’s are normal, his are extremely low.”

Cormier’s T/E ratios were 0.40:1 and 0.48:1, while his testosterone levels were 50 ng/mL and 70 ng/mL.

Cormier’s T/E ratios were 0.40:1 and 0.48:1, while his testosterone levels were 50 ng/mL and 70 ng/mL.

“These are highly su****ious for Jon Jones, in my opinion,” Conte said. “This is the reason that sophisticated anti-doping officials do target testing. So based on what we see here, my opinion is Jon Jones should be on a very short leash and should be random tested here until they sort out why he has these anomalies.”

That Jones’ levels were as low as they were should raise a red flag, according to Conte, because the use of performance enhancing drugs could be a potential culprit.

“The question is what was suppressing his testosterone production for that period of time. Something caused it to go down, and I do not believe it was overtraining,” Conte said. “Exogenous testosterone and other steroids in a period of time, depending on dosage and method of administration, can completely shut your testosterone and epitestosterone levels in urine to 0....The levels being low there can be many explanations. [People say], ‘Well maybe it’s because he was taking *******.’ There’s no solid science out there that shows ******* lowers testosterone.

"Typically without using drugs with black males, 50 to 150 would be the normal range [for testosterone], compared to Jon Jones came back his highest level was 4.9. Even on the low end he’s only got 10 percent of that. It’s really, really low,” Conte continued. “It wasn’t just that one time. The first part of December when he tested again the second time it’s still relatively low. Those are in my opinion just highly su****ious, very, very low levels.”

Report: Alistair Overeem's testosterone levels 'dangerously low' for a competitive athlete

http://www.mmamania.com/2013/2/28/40...ly-low-ufc-mma

[ironmt]

barely login a few minutes ago... you mad, bruh?

There Is no doubt that this news will most likely have him checking Into a mental Institution within the next few days. He Is usually one of the top three to comment on negative news regarding Pacquiao yet seems to have Mayweather disease and forgets how to read when there Is negative news regarding Floyd.

[big_james10]

[QUOTE=Left Hook Tua;16036323]Earlier today on ESPN Radio Max and Marcellus

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losange...ay?id=13627009

Max talks about Floyd's Testosterone/Epitestosterone ratio.

Avg white man 1.2 to 1 T/E.

Avg. black man 1.3 to 1 T/E.

WADA allows athletes to have T/E ratio as high as 4.0 to 1.

Floyd's T/E in previous tests was 0.69 to 1 and 0.8 to 1.

Low ratio of T/E is a red flag for PED use because it indicates "MASKING" to hide/lower high testosterone levels.[/QUOTE]


I must be taking PEDS without realizing it because I have been having problems with low testosterone for the last two years and I am around the same age as Floyd.


This speculation is ******ed. Your post and these accusations are an idiot's way of trying to accuse Mayweather of doing something illegal without providing any proof. Testosterone problems are common in men as they get older.

[ironmt]

I thought you guys had taxes to pay and couldn't post. I wonder why you have all this free time suddenly?

HMMMM?

Going with Manny's stance on this subject........ F**K Taxes.

[Kuyukut]

I thought you guys had taxes to pay and couldn't post. I wonder why you have all this free time suddenly?

HMMMM?

i have until 11:00 pm to surf then back to work so i can support you get your handouts from uncle sam.

so, what do you think about fraud jr masking his steroid use?

[big_james10]

they're not my numbers.

talk to max.

i don't know none of this shiet.

just repeating what he said on his ESPN show.

It is no surprise that Max Kellerman is implying something negative about Floyd Mayweather. The thing about Max's opinion is that it changes depending on which network the fighter is fighting. Max's opinion will completely change if Mayweather signs another contact with HBO and fights on their network. If that happened, Kellerman would dismiss this entire issue as a non-issue.

[ironmt]

[QUOTE=big_james10;16037441]

Earlier today on ESPN Radio Max and Marcellus

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losange...ay?id=13627009

Max talks about Floyd's Testosterone/Epitestosterone ratio.

Avg white man 1.2 to 1 T/E.

Avg. black man 1.3 to 1 T/E.

WADA allows athletes to have T/E ratio as high as 4.0 to 1.

Floyd's T/E in previous tests was 0.69 to 1 and 0.8 to 1.

Low ratio of T/E is a red flag for PED use because it indicates "MASKING" to hide/lower high testosterone levels.[/QUOTE]


I must be taking PEDS without realizing it because I have been having problems with low testosterone for the last two years and I am around the same age as Floyd.


This speculation is ******ed. Your post and these accusations are an idiot's way of trying to accuse Mayweather of doing something illegal without providing any proof. Testosterone problems are common in men as they get older.

With your newly discovered and publicly announced problem you will now be referred to as little_james around here.

[Fetta]

[QUOTE=big_james10;16037441]

Earlier today on ESPN Radio Max and Marcellus

http://espn.go.com/espnradio/losange...ay?id=13627009

Max talks about Floyd's Testosterone/Epitestosterone ratio.

Avg white man 1.2 to 1 T/E.

Avg. black man 1.3 to 1 T/E.

WADA allows athletes to have T/E ratio as high as 4.0 to 1.

Floyd's T/E in previous tests was 0.69 to 1 and 0.8 to 1.

Low ratio of T/E is a red flag for PED use because it indicates "MASKING" to hide/lower high testosterone levels.[/QUOTE]


I must be taking PEDS without realizing it because I have been having problems with low testosterone for the last two years and I am around the same age as Floyd.


This speculation is ******ed. Your post and these accusations are an idiot's way of trying to accuse Mayweather of doing something illegal without providing any proof. Testosterone problems are common in men as they get older.

Same here. Mine can be helped by an over counter booster. I use GNC

Anyway this has started to get debunked. Even kevin iole, the one who wrote original article in May, is saying "this HBO employee article doesnt match the actual facts".

Nothing will come of this

[maguirre]

Any response yet from this shady character? Any chance major networks do an investigative report on this guy? Why is he avoiding interviews? What is he hiding?