Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[Spoon23]

been posted many times. you just refuse to read.

https://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/USADAs-Detailed-Correction-to-SB-Nation-Article-by-Tom-Hauser.pdf

"Mr. Mayweather was notified by the Doping Control Officer (DCO) at his home around 1:45 pm, prior to Mr. Mayweather relocating to MGM Grand Garden Arena for the weigh-in. From the time of notification, Mr. Mayweather was continuously monitored by the USADA DCO until the sample collection was completed at approximately 8:15 pm."

According to you, MR Mayweather was notified 1:45 then goes to the weigh-in and later goes home at what time was that original zero?

We know USADA left at 8:15pm.

But, The important question is what time did Floyd arrived back to his home. Will show the window of time Floyd was able to use 750ml of IVS.

Coz everyone knows Floyd used IVS after the weigh-in in the comforts of his home.

For TRANSAPRENCY Original zero what time did Floyd come home from the weigh-in?

[original zero]

Rath -

I have answered you over and over. So no, I am not ignoring post #8223. You are ignoring my answers to post #8223.

And your history of ignoring information is the exact reason I am unwilling to provide you with ample medical research concerning the speed you would set an IV drip at in various different scenarios.

But we know for a fact that the speed you suggested was inaccurate because otherwise the IV would have been seen on stage at the weigh in.

I am not a lawyer and I have *never* said I was a lawyer. I do come from a family of lawyers and may know a little more about the law than the average person (mom, dad, sister, grandfather, great grandfather, etc all lawyers), but somebody doesn't have to be a lawyer to understand that Spoon has repeatedly lied in this thread.

And if you are truly pursuing the truth, why haven't you joined me in condemning Spoon every time he's claimed that Floyd was in the midst of IV treatment already when USADA arrived at 1:45pm?



Spoon -

You have REPEATEDLY claimed USADA arrived and "caught" Floyd already receiving an IV. That is 100% false. Why did you make that claim so many times if we already knew it wasn't true?

I do not, and have never, worked for NSAC, USADA or Mayweather promotions. Nobody is asking me to cover anything up and my presence on this site is for data collection purposes. Who I turn that data over to is none of your business and it has nothing to do with Floyd or anything being discussed in this thread.

You asked for personal information I'm unable to reveal and I asked you for personal information you were unable to reveal. If I'm ducking you, that means you're ducking me. You can't have it both ways.

Nobody is trying to cover anything up. There are five losers who still compare about this. NSAC & USADA exonerated Floyd. The world moved on. Hauser issued a correction. It's over. Floyd won. An HBO writer tried to smear his name the weekend of Floyd's last fight. His smear campaign was rebuked. The end.

[Spoon23]

You have REPEATEDLY claimed USADA arrived and "caught" Floyd already receiving an IV. That is 100% false. Why did you make that claim so many times if we already knew it wasn't true?

Actually I follow your derivative. As you have mentioned 1:40 he left for the weigh-in. I mistakenly made an honest miscalculation of your facts, as you have mentioned floyd left @ 1:40 to go to the wiegh-in. I thought he was already in his house. But that was actually the time he just left to go to the weigh-in.

So I asked now. What time did he comeback to his house?

Everyone Knows he took IVS after the weigh-in his house.

Don't duck this question. I'll remember.

Here's your words:

been posted many times. you just refuse to read.

https://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/USADAs-Detailed-Correction-to-SB-Nation-Article-by-Tom-Hauser.pdf

"Mr. Mayweather was notified by the Doping Control Officer (DCO) at his home around 1:45 pm, prior to Mr. Mayweather relocating to MGM Grand Garden Arena for the weigh-in. From the time of notification, Mr. Mayweather was continuously monitored by the USADA DCO until the sample collection was completed at approximately 8:15 pm."

[original zero]

Spoon -

Why did you repeatedly claim that USADA "caught" Floyd receiving an IV when they arrived at his house when it had already been posted, dozens of times, for six months, that it wasn't true?

How can we trust anything you say when you'll say blatantly post things over and over and over that you know aren't true?

Why should anybody read or respond to your posts when you've proven to be such an irrational and unreasonable person?

It is not publicly known the exact time Floyd got back home after the weigh-in. USADA followed him all day, so the time he got home is irrelevant.

[Spoon23]

Spoon -

Why did you repeatedly claim that USADA "caught" Floyd receiving an IV when they arrived at his house when it had already been posted, dozens of times, for six months, that it wasn't true?

That's when USADA released their own version of events. We're in their employer Floyd who paid them 150k to do drug testing was their in his house before and after the weigh-in.

Now, if we are going to follow their narrative statement. They still gave a report that Floyd was administered 750ml of IVS in there own supervision after the weigh in.

750ml of saline and vitamins is enough to mask and peds in an athletes system.

Knowing that Floyd had IVS prior to going into the fight.

What's important to note is, if USADA blood and urine tests Floyd after the fight, the result of those tests will come clean. Since those 750ml of IVS and saline will mask any illegal drug in his system.

And that's the bottom line. 750ml is a system flush.

Everything else you said is immaterial.

To make it even clearer to you, any testing done to Floyd after the fight will surely test negative of any substance since he has already been proven to have loaded up of 750ml of saline. He has already masked himself.

Therefore, this becomes a shady way of covering Floyd's PED use. Yes he got away, since TUE absolves him of that.

Yes, Floyd got away because of rules to that allowed him to get away, but in the court of public opinion. He was able to mask himself with IVS. No amount of testing after the fight will be effective since he has been masked with IVS.

And that's the red flag.

[original zero]

Spoon -

Floyd gave a urine sample right before taking the IV, which decimates your "system flush" nonsense.

So it looks like we've wrapped this thing up. Time to close the thread.

[Spoon23]

Spoon -

Floyd gave a urine sample right before taking the IV, which decimates your "system flush" nonsense.

So it looks like we've wrapped this thing up. Time to close the thread.

Lol urine. Sure he did. Then after that he can pump himself with peds again then masked it up with IVS. Then after the fight poof! Any test USADA does to him. He'll pass it with flying colors.

Shady is an understatement.

Not to mention. Can USADA be trusted? Who paid who 150k?

Oh right it's the athlete Floyd himself lol off course that's a red flag.

If an NBA, NFL, players pays for drug testing. No nba player will ever get caught. That's for sure especially if all those nba players NFL players pay 150k lol that's a certainty.

It's the job of the NBA, NFL league commission to do this, but in boxing the wild Wild West it's the athlete who is fighting is the one paying lol

[Spoon23]

To receive a TUE in accordance to wada rules

A. Medical history of an athletes background is checked. - does he always severely dehydrated? According to Floyd himself he has no problem making weight in the 147 division.

A summary of the athletes history and the findings of a physical
examination should confirm the diagnosis and establish the need for an IV
infusion. A precise description of the clinical situation and specific medical
indication for the IV infusion must be given in the TUE application.
Note that if an IV infusion or injection is part of a clinical investigation,
surgical procedure or hospital admission, there is no requirement for a
TUE. The athlete is nevertheless advised to obtain and keep a copy of the
medical records from the intervention or procedure.

B. Diagnostic criteria
A clearly defined diagnosis should be established in accordance with the
International Classification of Diseases standards of the World Health
Organization ICD-10).
C. Relevant medical information
A detailed description of the substance to be infused, the rate of infusion
and any other relevant clinical information from the treating physician
should be included. It must be demonstrated why an alternative permitted
therapy, for example oral rehydration in case of dehydration, is not a valid
option. Any existing co-morbidities that would influence the decision for
granting a TUE should also be included.
TUE Physician Guidelines
Medical Information to Support the Decisions of TUECs
INTRAVENOUS INFUSIONS
WADA - World Anti-Doping Program

THE SAFETY NETS ARE CLEAR

For transparency, what as the medical condition of Floyd to receive IV infusion? Up to this day no explanation. No reason for severe dehydration. No physician to clear the air.

If I was being pinned down as a cheat, the only way to save face is to show the world my condition. If i am innocent, I will be glad to bring this out in the open and request that physician who was their during my IV infusion to help me explain what happened to clear the air.

But..

Up to this day 10 months has past.

Nothing..

Floyd would rather look guilty than to clear the air and save himself.

Why? Coz he knows he can't defend it.

An obvious cover up happened. As you clearly have pointed out. He got away. Yes he did. Technicalities did. But still those cover up doesn't explain the big turd on top of Floyd's head.

[original zero]

you post a fact and spoon thinks writing "sure" negates the fact.

manny & floyd both voluntarily agree to pay for additional testing and spoon thinks that means only floyd paid.

but at least spoon has finally conceded, after six months of posting the same lie, that USADA did not "show up" and "catch" floyd receiving an IV.

but of course, with IV being 100% legal in nevada and with NSAC & USADA both confirming floyd did nothing wrong, you have to ask yourself what kind of deranged individual spoon/rath would have to be to still be so obsessed with such a non-issue.

countless fans and media members commented the day before the fight that floyd seemed exhausted and drained. he could barely speak.

25 ounces of salt water, the equivalent of a medium soda, given by a paramedic in the presence of a doping control officer is pretty much the exact opposite of a controversy.

if manny manages to avoid getting robbed by TR on 4/9, floyd and manny will fight again, with both of them fighting as promotional free agents.

and manny will lose again.

i suspect rath/spoon may commit suicide at that point.

[Spoon23]

TUE validity and recommended review process
The duration of the TUE is usually for a short time period surrounding the initial
medical intervention. Longer usage of an IV infusion would typically occur in a
hospital setting and therefore does not require a TUE.

Any appropriate cautionary matters

It is the responsibility of the treating physician to evaluate the clinical indication
for an IV infusion or injection and the subsequent need for a TUE application.
At all times, the health and well-being of the athlete must remain the priority
during medical investigations and treatments. TUECs should apply sound clinical
judgment to their interpretation of the ISTUE, but be mindful of the
inappropriate use of IV infusion in non-emergency situations.

The short time period of issuing a TUE? Is 3 weeks a short time after a sport competition?

So the physician who was there to watch over Floyd must be thorough in his judgement in allowing TUE.

A physician has a lot of explaining to do. What was his sound judgement to give Floyd IVS? Where is he? All it takes is his word to clear the air, and yet he rather hide than to fix this.

If I was Floyd I'll even pay the physician in charge some money behind the scenes just to convince him to speak up for his defense.

But we all know ere is NO medical practitioner will be dumb enough to speak up and defend Floyd. Since, justifying Floyd as severely dehydrated has safety nets that has to be met to prove it. No physician can prove it. Coz there are too much holes that shows he was not. Athletes back ground, athletes history of dehydration must be in question. Floyd has none of that history. All signs of red flags.

FLOYD IS GUILTY BEYOND REASONABLE DOUBT

- case closed