Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[ADP02]

So Prince Naseem is on record that the reason he retired was because of his hands. Hmmm. Was he on PEDs? Or was it his hands.

You just acknowledged Floyds hands were hurt. Even the HBO dorks were commenting about Floyds hands when he foight Baldomir...

So the double standard is layed out CLEARLY. Do Floyd and Naseem get the PED theory because of hands? Isn't possible Floyd could have retired because his hands are, as Naseem stated, done?

Please go back and read it slowly. I did say that it happens in boxing, no?

The guy was saying that it can't be PEDs because Floyd has almost no recent KOs. So I pointed out the reasons why he has no KOs. Brittle hands and takes no chances.

[Zaroku]

And this is what people remember when they hear Barry Bonds and Victor Conte!

Home Run!

Sugarkaine,

I agree for the most part, but additionally he made it look easy. This also needs to be factored into the discussion. Please note, I am only talking about what I saw unfold in the ring, via various boxing outlets. Not what I heard, or want to believe.

I didn't expect that fight to be that easy.

But IV power, and stuff I leave to you all to discuss. I only speak of what I saw in the ring.

Best regards to All
Zaroku

[ADP02]

And this is what people remember when they hear Barry Bonds and Victor Conte!

Home Run!

And your point is?

There were lots of pictures like these ones floating around for Floyd.

[Lester Tutor]

And your point is?

There were lots of pictures like these ones floating around for Floyd.

We can play those games. Toney and Roach got caught Roiding. How long has Ariza been with Roacg and Pac? Didn't Ariza say that Pac was never afraid of needles? Hasn't it been documented through videos that Arum has been ducking for years? Why did Pac never want to do WADA style testing? That was ESPN's own program biting themselves year earlier...

Oh wait...my that's right, I'm working on a doc to unfold it all.

To show a picture of Ariza is dumb... yet people don't know why.

[Lester Tutor]

VADA has actually caught AND reported failed tests for fighters (at a fraction of the cost).. has USADA? If both are using the same testing labs/methods, then why the hell is it so much more expensive to use USADA? Can you answer that without deflecting with a wall of text?

using the same testing labs/methods?

First broheim, USADA or VADA can choose whichever WADA accredited labs worldwide, therefore fees have too many variances because you nor I have any idea of their personnel fees nor different lab invoices throughout the world. It would be silly to think that all WADA accredited labs have the same pricing... Again, WADA accredited labs, worldwide. If I'm not mistaken, Paquiao had his tests done somewhere in Asia and Floyd in the states. Why would they do that? Perhaps it's what the promoters wanted out of insecurities. VADA is a non-profit entity. How can you compare their pricing standards vs. a bigger USADA organization? Why is McDonalds bigger than Taco Bell? I don't care.

Did I deflect anything?

[ADP02]

We can play those games. Toney and Roach got caught Roiding. How long has Ariza been with Roacg and Pac? Didn't Ariza say that Pac was never afraid of needles? Hasn't it been documented through videos that Arum has been ducking for years? Why did Pac never want to do WADA style testing? That was ESPN's own program biting themselves year earlier...

Oh wait...my that's right, I'm working on a doc to unfold it all.

To show a picture of Ariza is dumb... yet people don't know why.

Not even sure where you are going with all this bud. Honestly ... You are all over the place.

Both Memo and Conte were part of that scandal, no? One you have a picture with a picture of Bonds and I gave you a picture of 2 people. One hired by Floyd and the other admitted to consulting with Ariza for Floyd.

Manny never said that he was scared of needles. Manny just didn't want to have blood taken out of him close to the fight due to an experience he had just before the Morales fight. Now Floyd and his fans are desperately trying to cover up the IV scandal and using those same words to excuse themselves of what Floyd actually did.

"giving blood contributed to Floyd's dehydration" ...... Ellerbe and Floyd

[Zaroku]

using the same testing labs/methods?

First broheim, USADA or VADA can choose whichever WADA accredited labs worldwide, therefore fees have too many variances because you nor I have any idea of their personnel fees nor different lab invoices throughout the world. It would be silly to think that all WADA accredited labs have the same pricing... Again, WADA accredited labs, worldwide. If I'm not mistaken, Paquiao had his tests done somewhere in Asia and Floyd in the states. Why would they do that? Perhaps it's what the promoters wanted out of insecurities. VADA is a non-profit entity. How can you compare their pricing standards vs. a bigger USADA organization? Why is McDonalds bigger than Taco Bell? I don't care.

Did I deflect anything?

Sugarcane, bring your best game. We are waiting. Lay down your truth. But bring it.

Subway is now bigger in Japan than McDonald's. Just saying.

[Lester Tutor]

Not even sure where you are going with all this bud. Honestly ... You are all over the place.

Both Memo and Conte were part of that scandal, no? One you have a picture with a picture of Bonds and I gave you a picture of 2 people. One hired by Floyd and the other admitted to consulting with Ariza for Floyd.

Manny never said that he was scared of needles. Manny just didn't want to have blood taken out of him close to the fight due to an experience he had just before the Morales fight. Now Floyd and his fans are desperately trying to cover up the IV scandal and using those same words to excuse themselves of what Floyd actually did.

"giving blood contributed to Floyd's dehydration" ...... Ellerbe and Floyd

I posted a picture of Victor Conte because some blokes started references Barry Bonds. Lol. I have stated more than a 100 times, literally, the nature and conflicts of interest between HBO, Conte, Hauser, and Top Rank. You can't put puzzle those things because you focus on details with referencing.

You also just stated that Manny gave his excuse of avoiding WADA style testing because of a "experience before the Morales fight." That's completely false and misleading. Remember this once. Pacquiao is on record for saying that the reason he lost to Morales was because he gave blood close to the fight.

Who needs to cover up anything? Floyd did nothing wrong. The only thing Floyd would have done wrong was to take 50ml of fluid for rehydration. Too small amount!

[ReIoaded]

Thanks. Much appreciated.
Best regards.

No problem.

There was a point when it looked to me, like all you were contributing was mockery and sarcasm and so I had to just scroll through your posts.

[DeandreXI]

Subway is now bigger in Japan than McDonald's. Just saying.

Random fact ftw.