Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[Zaroku]

An investigation should be launched. All records subpenaed, all parties put under oath with penalty of perjury.

Armstrong skated for years under USADA. One federal investigation with full subpena power and he was toast.

After that the repercussion from the investigation should be consistent with what happened to other cheats such as 0 time Tour De France winner Lance Armstrong.

Good point! Great stuff!
But the NSAC has jurisdiction over this matter! If they pass on taking any action, it is over! The federal government can possible use the interstate commerce act to claim jurisdiction, but that would be a really tough case to investigate!

My guess is you are not American, and although I am not an attorney, I was required to study civil & criminal proceedings, along with making correct change!

[radioraheem]

At no point has USADA ever addressed why Floyd needed 750 ml of saline, roughly 15 times the WADA limit. Anything above 50 ml is only allowed for hospital admissions, surgical procedures or clinical investigations. Floyd took the IVs without an approved TUE, only after the infusion had already been administered did he apply for a retroactive TUE stating dehydration concerns. USADA has yet to explain the medical justification for not treating Mayweather’s dehydration with several glasses of water.

http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uplo...Tom-Hauser.pdf

Again, it seems you like to own yourself simply because you do not read the very things you post.

The IV was administered after the athlete had already been notified by the USADA DCO and in the presence of the USADA DCO. In addition, Mr. Mayweather declared the infusion in advance to the USADA DCO, who was made aware of the need for the IV due to Mr. Mayweather’s physical condition and who continued to monitor Mr. Mayweather throughout the administration of the IV by the paramedic and thereafter until a full sample was collected from Mr. Mayweather. Mr. Mayweather was never outside the physical presence of the USADA DCO from long before the IV was administered until well after administration when the urine sample collection process was complete.

[davidandrei]

See here is the problem, you are ****ing ******. You dont get that USADA's reason for granting the TUE for the IV was the Froid couldn't' give a sample.But they also say that he was tested before and after the IV. If he couldn't' give a sample then he couldn't have been tested before the IV. USADA is coming up with stories to explain away each accusation but these stories are inconsistent with each other.

also, they say they took a before and after pee test but nsac stated both fighters gave 11 samples of pee and 8 blood. do they count those tests as May1a and May1b? Maybe they meant Floyd got 12 pee test?

[Zaroku]

In violation of WADA rules.



That is the whole put them under oath part. You dont "talk" to a liar. You put them under oath where if they lie they go to jail.

So WADA gave Floyd an exception in violation of WADA rules?

They should not have given an exception, but they have probably stated the reason for their exception!

Whether you like it or not, I think the inquiry should focus on the reasons the exception was granted, but it is an internal WADA decision! Just my two cents!

[GTTofAK]

illegal-contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law
prohibited-that has been forbidden; banned.

The IV is prohibited by WADA but is not illegal according to NSAC, the governing body in this fight.

NSAC questioned USADA why they gave Floyd a retroactive TUE for the IV. USADA responded. NSAC reprimanded them but took no further action.

IV are illegal under NSAC.

"PROHIBITED ACTS;

NAC 467.850; Administration or use of alcohol, stimulants, drugs or injections; urinalysis or chemical tests; disciplinary action. (NRS 467.030)
1.The administration of or use of any:
(a)Alcohol
(b)Stimulant; or
(c)Drug or injection that has not been approved by the Commission"

You cant inject yourself with anything without approval. NSAC simply doesn't enforce their own rules.

[The Big Dunn]

See here is the problem, you are ****ing ******. You dont get that USADA's reason for granting the TUE for the IV was the Froid couldn't' give a sample.But they also say that he was tested before and after the IV. If he couldn't' give a sample then he couldn't have been tested before the IV. USADA is coming up with stories to explain away each accusation but these stories are inconsistent with each other.

Here's where you are f-cking ******- they are mutually exclusive of one another.

It is possible for Floyd to have not been able to give a sample at one time before the IV was administered, then been able to give a sample at another time before the IV was administered., thus allowing it to be tested before the IV was administered.

Dude, I get you want the decision changed to NC. Try to think about things objectively and not just "how can I make Floyd look guilty so I can get the decision changed to a no contest."

[The Big Dunn]

At no point has USADA ever addressed why Floyd needed 750 ml of saline, roughly 15 times the WADA limit. Anything above 50 ml is only allowed for hospital admissions, surgical procedures or clinical investigations. Floyd took the IVs without an approved TUE, only after the infusion had already been administered did he apply for a retroactive TUE stating dehydration concerns. USADA has yet to explain the medical justification for not treating Mayweather’s dehydration with several glasses of water.

http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uplo...Tom-Hauser.pdf

OK, then what do you want WADA to do to USADA for this?

That is not true, he applied for it before but went ahead without getting a response. he then got retroactively approved. What would you want the punishment for that to be?

Where does WADA require any of its testing arms to explain how or why they approve certain treatments? you may want to know that, but I don't see where USADA is required by WADA to provide that to you.

[GTTofAK]

The federal government can possible use the interstate commerce act to claim jurisdiction, but that would be a really tough case to investigate!

The feds have the same cause that they did to investigate Armstrong, defrauding the federal government. USADA was granted $10,000,000 by the federal government to implement WADA rules and testing protocols. If they aren't following WADA rules and protocols then they defrauded the federal government.

[The Big Dunn]

IV are illegal under NSAC.



You cant inject yourself with anything without approval. NSAC simply doesn't enforce their own rules.

please read the definitions of illegal and prohibited again.

where are the drugs, stimulants or alcohol? Floyd did get approval, retroactively.

SO again, what do you want done?

[GTTofAK]

SO again, what do you want done?

Why do I have to answer you when I just answer the same question from someone else? Read that and go suck a ****ing **** you piece of ****.