Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[GTTofAK]

Do you think manny lost? Just the fight alone? Just the fight? If you watch it, objectively, did manny win?

Another question, what should happen?

An investigation should be launched. All records subpenaed, all parties put under oath with penalty of perjury.

Armstrong skated for years under USADA. One federal investigation with full subpena power and he was toast.

After that the repercussion from the investigation should be consistent with what happened to other cheats such as 0 time Tour De France winner Lance Armstrong.

[The Big Dunn]

IV re-hydration is illegal.

https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/resources/files/wada_medical_info_iv_infusions_4.0_en.pdf

Its right there in black and whit. You cant use IV's to rehydrate explicitly because of the risk of abuse in weight classified sports like boxing.



USADA also said that he couldn't give a sample so the tester requested the IV. If he couldn't' give a sample how was he tested before and after? You dont seem to get that USADA is spinning and cant come up with a consistent story.

What you posted doesn't make it illegal. it is discouraged yet happens in boxing and other sports frequently.

It seems he did give a sample after not being able to. Now, what penalty do you want for not being able to give a urine sample?

[Zaroku]

IV re-hydration is illegal.

https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/resources/files/wada_medical_info_iv_infusions_4.0_en.pdf

Its right there in black and whit. You cant use IV's to rehydrate explicitly because of the risk of abuse in weight classified sports like boxing.



USADA also said that he couldn't give a sample so the tester requested the IV. If he couldn't' give a sample how was he tested before and after? You dont seem to get that USADA is spinning and cant come up with a consistent story.

You are spinning! Spinning out of your mind! What should happen!!

Great Guru, guide us, how do we proceed from here? Now that you understand all things, oh great guru!

Where do we go from here?

Please use your infinite power to solve this problem! Then work on world hunger, peak oil, Israel/*********, not enough lumpia to go around and tards who can't state the remedy they seek!

[GTTofAK]

What you posted doesn't make it illegal. it is discouraged yet happens in boxing and other sports frequently.

"IV infusions are included on the Prohibited List"

Just because no one is following the ****ing rules doesn't make it legal. Hell UFC just adopted WADA code. What is one of the first things USADA does? Bans IV re-hydration. They did this as they were defending Froids IV re-hydration. USADA does whatever they are paid to do.

[GTTofAK]

You are spinning! Spinning out of your mind! What should happen!!

I think I have been very consistent. IV dehydration is banned except in the case of severe dehydration which WADA defines as a 7% loss of body weight. For Floyd this is 11lbs. Was Floyd 11lbs down?

Its pretty ****ing cut and dry. USADA broke WADA rules by granting the TUE.

[Zaroku]

IV re-hydration is illegal.

https://wada-main-prod.s3.amazonaws.com/resources/files/wada_medical_info_iv_infusions_4.0_en.pdf

Its right there in black and whit. You cant use IV's to rehydrate explicitly because of the risk of abuse in weight classified sports like boxing.



USADA also said that he couldn't give a sample so the tester requested the IV. If he couldn't' give a sample how was he tested before and after? You dont seem to get that USADA is spinning and cant come up with a consistent story.

Didn't they give Floyd an exception?
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[GTTofAK]

It seems he did give a sample after not being able to. Now, what penalty do you want for not being able to give a urine sample?

See here is the problem, you are ****ing ******. You dont get that USADA's reason for granting the TUE for the IV was the Froid couldn't' give a sample.But they also say that he was tested before and after the IV. If he couldn't' give a sample then he couldn't have been tested before the IV. USADA is coming up with stories to explain away each accusation but these stories are inconsistent with each other.

[GTTofAK]

Didn't they give Floyd an exception?

In violation of WADA rules.

Talk to them!

That is the whole put them under oath part. You dont "talk" to a liar. You put them under oath where if they lie they go to jail.

[The Big Dunn]

"IV infusions are included on the Prohibited List"

Just because no one is following the ****ing rules doesn't make it legal. Hell UFC just adopted WADA code. What is one of the first things USADA does? Bans IV re-hydration. They did this as they were defending Froids IV re-hydration. USADA does whatever they are paid to do.

illegal-contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law
prohibited-that has been forbidden; banned.

The IV is prohibited by WADA but is not illegal according to NSAC, the governing body in this fight.

NSAC questioned USADA why they gave Floyd a retroactive TUE for the IV. USADA responded. NSAC reprimanded them but took no further action.

[IR0NFIST]

what evidence? the saline and vitamin c IV? dude that's been addressed. the TUE? NSAC said they were mad at USADA for that, what more do you want them to do?

illegal-contrary to or forbidden by law, especially criminal law
prohibited-that has been forbidden; banned.

The IV is prohibited by WADA but is not illegal according to NSAC, the governing body in this fight.

NSAC questioned USADA why they gave Floyd a retroactive TUE for the IV. USADA responded. NSAC reprimanded them but took no further action.

At no point has USADA ever addressed why Floyd needed 750 ml of saline, roughly 15 times the WADA limit. Anything above 50 ml is only allowed for hospital admissions, surgical procedures or clinical investigations. Floyd took the IVs without an approved TUE, only after the infusion had already been administered did he apply for a retroactive TUE stating dehydration concerns. USADA has yet to explain the medical justification for not treating Mayweather’s dehydration with several glasses of water.

http://www.usada.org/wp-content/uploads/USADAs-Detailed-Correction-to-SB-Nation-Article-by-Tom-Hauser.pdf