Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[Zaroku]

sorry about that ARRIVED spelling thanks for correcting me i knew there was something wrong the moment i typed those word

ARRIVEDED it is .

i apologize

How did you know the RN was a woman?

you said subpoenaed HER

It means put her under the ****!
Slang! Sorry!

I edited my post and corrected it! I don't know! But statistically most RN are women! A very sexist point of view! My two sisters are RN, so I assumed a woman! Meet the parents, the movie, covers this!

[Zaroku]

I see your point, you're suggesting that EPO, HGH, and CIR testing is the reason why Floyd got involved with USADA, to such an extent that he was willing to pay them 3 times more than the normal price. And in return for his excess payment, they granted him immunity from prosecution.

This notion is further confirmed when Floyd was proven to have unusually low T:E ratios prior to his fights with Victor Ortiz and Robert Guerrero. Normally, the standard protocol would be to run a CIR test, but instead of following through with the procedure, USADA diverted from its usual course and went in the opposite direction, avoiding it completely.

Corruption at its finest.

Yes! For me, this is exactly what I am saying!
I am adding that I would have charged his rich ass 40 times more!
4?Ring side seats, which I would have sold, and a couple of watches!

[Vadrigar.]

That doesn't prove that he wasn't clean.

Also, I thought he did agree to a random testing.

It's reason to be highly su****ious though.

[Zaroku]

Even if it were true? Fanatic Pacquiao fans are beyond nonsensical. Amir Khan advocates ''Olympic Style'' drug testing. I have the video for it.

Hence ''style.'' Not ''Olympic Drug Testing.'' It's not the Olympics. The point Floyd makes is clearly pointing out that most commissions don't do rigorous testing for EPO, HGH, and CIR. You can clearly hear, even I have the video, of Margaret Goodman stating from Al Bernstein youtube blog that such testing is a lot of protocol.

Forum is full of idiots. ''even if it were true'' lol. I see Pacquiao can PED and it's clearly alright. wtf

SugarKaine! Man o man, we kicked up a hornets nest of mad manny drones! please do a search "SNL all drug olympics!" And let me know what you think!

[ganthet]

Hence ''style.'' Not ''Olympic Drug Testing.'' It's not the Olympics. The point Floyd makes is clearly pointing out that most commissions don't do rigorous testing for EPO, HGH, and CIR. You can clearly hear, even I have the video, of Margaret Goodman stating from Al Bernstein youtube blog that such testing is a lot of protocol.

LMAO nice try in trying to use wordplay here to get Froid and his big mouth out of this situation. Yes, it's not the Olympics, therefore no one would call it Olympic drug testing when used in Boxing or any other sport outside the Olympics. Only an idiot would call it that. Hence why it is called Olympic-style drug testing, because you adapt the exact same testing done in the Olympics dumbass! And you can twist it all you want, but everyone knows what Fake Froid meant. He meant 365 days a year, 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. Anytime, anyplace. And without notice. Now I'm sure you're gonna respond with some ******ed and irrelevant nonsense to try and defend Froid's fake crusade. So I'm gonna own your argument with one name: Nonito Donaire. Now that's the only boxer who can claim doing OSDT ******. Your God Froid is a fake and a cheat. Deal with it

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[Zaroku]

LMAO nice try in trying to use wordplay here to get Froid and his big mouth out of this situation. Yes, it's not the Olympics, therefore no one would call it Olympic drug testing when used in Boxing or any other sport outside the Olympics. Only an idiot would call it that. Hence why it is called Olympic-style drug testing, because you adapt the exact same testing done in the Olympics dumbass! And you can twist it all you want, but everyone knows what Fake Froid meant. He meant 365 days a year, 7 days a week, 24 hours a day. Anytime, anyplace. And without notice. Now I'm sure you're gonna respond with some ******ed and irrelevant nonsense to try and defend Froid's fake crusade. So I'm gonna own your argument with one name: Nonito Donaire. Now that's the only boxer who can claim doing OSDT ******. Your God Froid is a fake and a cheat. Deal with it

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Jumping in with a question? How do you know Donaire is the "ONLY" boxer who can claim doing OSTD! Only is a big all encompassing word! Have you met every single boxer in the world?
Many boxers who are up and coming cannot even afford PEDS. Additionally many wouldn't take them because they can cause problems, against their religion, etc!

Please clarify? Because I personally know a few up and coming pros at the gym and they would never take PEDS!

[travestyny]

By the way if you have been following this IV GATE. Urine samples is as potent as blood samples with CIR testing which is carbon isotope testing can nail a cheat effectively.

At this point Hauser only needs those urine samples with Floyd's low TE RATIOS to prove floyd cheated. If Pac was cheating before, it will show up in the urine with CIR testing.

Now see the truth. It has come full circle. In this day and age urine sample can catch a doper easily.

Normally, the standard protocol would be to run a CIR test, but instead of following through with the procedure, USADA diverted from its usual course and went in the opposite direction, avoiding it completely.

“Contrary to Mr. Hauser’s unsubstantiated claims … CIR testing was conducted on all 22 urine samples collected from both Mr. Mayweather and Mr. Pacquiao during the testing program in advance of their fight,” according to the statement.

“USADA maintains, however, that focusing only on CIR testing is not up to current scientific practices. USADA also utilizes the Athlete Biological Passport to longitudinally monitor an athlete’s urine and blood profiles, which allows us to look for any minor or major fluctuations in an athlete’s blood and steroid values, including fluctuations in their [testosterone/epitestosterone] ratio.”

http://www.latimes.com/sports/sportsnow/la-sp-sn-usada-mayweather-thomas-hauser-boxing-20150917-story.html?ref=yfp

[Lester Tutor]

I see your point, you're suggesting that EPO, HGH, and CIR testing is the reason why Floyd got involved with USADA, to such an extent that he was willing to pay them 3 times more than the normal price. And in return for his excess payment, they granted him immunity from prosecution.

This notion is further confirmed when Floyd was proven to have unusually low T:E ratios prior to his fights with Victor Ortiz and Robert Guerrero. Normally, the standard protocol would be to run a CIR test, but instead of following through with the procedure, USADA diverted from its usual course and went in the opposite direction, avoiding it completely.

Corruption at its finest.

Actually you don't see the point. To attack Floyd for using USADA is no different than any other athlete choosing to only use VADA. Hauser can play the fools all he wants, but for the media to contextualize inaccuracies from Morales and Floyd is comical.

Yes, 3 more times than the usual, and that's all out of context, again comical. Please list any bouts in this past year where fighters did a serious of 19 blood and urine tests at the magnitude of May-Pac. Only an idiot thinks that the lab testing of 19 blood and urine samples is equivalent to the price of 3-5 tests, and by ''3-5'' that's a conservative guess for undercard bout culture.

Wait for it!!!!

The reason why Hauser makes it seem, or other out of context failure of journalism from other outlets forwarding comedy, is that the PROMOTERS pay for the lab testing.

Wait for it!!!!

TMT = Promoter ? True or False?

All this ''T/E'' ratio of ''when'' or ''why'' is just failed hogwash. We might as well question any other fighter or athlete and their medical affiliates as to why there are consistent differences in test all the time. How can there be a rule for a DEFINITIVE requirement or near-the-dot number for a sample?

Ridiculous.

[ganthet]

Jumping in with a question? How do you know Donaire is the "ONLY" boxer who can claim doing OSTD! Only is a big all encompassing word! Have you met every single boxer in the world?
Many boxers who are up and coming cannot even afford PEDS. Additionally many wouldn't take them because they can cause problems, against their religion, etc!

Please clarify? Because I personally know a few up and coming pros at the gym and they would never take PEDS!

What's your point? First of all, I would assume that if any other known boxer signs up for OSDT, then it would make the news wouldn't it? If some nobody signs up for OSDT, no one would even care, so I really don't get what your point is nor what you're trying to accomplish here. And who the fack mentioned anything about PEDS? Or who the fack mentioned anything about whether no-name boxers have enough money to buy PEDS or not? LOL! The argument was whether REAL Olympic Style Drug Testing is being done in Boxing (outside the Olympics) which I proved exists.

And if there are indeed other boxers besides Nonito who do OSDT (although I honestly don't think so as of the moment), then that just proves my point even further that OSDT is being done in boxing and Froid claiming he's doing OSDT is nothing more than a big fat lie, one big fake crusade. Which is what the other Froid **** rider was trying to twist into something else and squirm out of by saying that REAL OSDT is not done in Boxing - which is why Froid is not being tested like in the Olympics. Which I proved false by mentioning Nonito Donaire.

[Lester Tutor]

LMAO nice try in trying to use wordplay here to get Froid and his big mouth out of this situation. Yes, it's not the Olympics, therefore no one would call it Olympic drug testing when used in Boxing or any other sport outside the Olympics......
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Again, you seem to have bypassed my point on purpose...nor did you reference about Amir Khan, as he HAS on record of stating ''Olympic Style Drug Testing.''
Why aren't you asking me for the link? Why wouldn't Khan be ridiculed just as much? That's a conservative double standard compared to Manny Pacquiao's first failed effort to agree to BLOOD TESTING with Floyd in 2010! It's obvious no one is even bringing it up when it was the MOST ARTICULATE and PROVEN evidence against Top Rank and Pacquiao that they did not agree to ''Olympic Style'' drug testing or shall I say blood taken for the 2010 bout. You think peeing only in a cup is the most definitive solution to finding PEDs in the system? Don't you think it seems practical for a boxer who's ''NOT OBLIGATED TO'' as Dan Rafael stated, I have that on video too, that Pac's not ''obligated'' to go under ''Floyd's'' terms when Floyd is not the medical doctor doing testing nor did TMT ever create WADA rules.

You fanatic Pac fans fail at too many levels. Just stop being in denial. It looks ******, even though you know the truth.