Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[Lester Tutor]

Even if that were true, Floyd is the only one who portrays himself to be a crusader for "cleaning up the sport". Throwing around terms like "Olympic style drug testing" when he's never actually took part in it. Oddly enough, he's the only one with rumors floating around about failing 3 drug tests with USADA along with using banned IVs under su****ious circumstances.

Even if it were true? Fanatic Pacquiao fans are beyond nonsensical. Amir Khan advocates ''Olympic Style'' drug testing. I have the video for it.

Hence ''style.'' Not ''Olympic Drug Testing.'' It's not the Olympics. The point Floyd makes is clearly pointing out that most commissions don't do rigorous testing for EPO, HGH, and CIR. You can clearly hear, even I have the video, of Margaret Goodman stating from Al Bernstein youtube blog that such testing is a lot of protocol.

Forum is full of idiots. ''even if it were true'' lol. I see Pacquiao can PED and it's clearly alright. wtf

[SilverMiles]

Look I know Pacs your guy and you love to watch him fight. I did too and he may be clean now. But IMO there was a time where he was highly suspect. Pacquiao is fun to watch and he has a great story behind him but that doesn't change the fact he was suspect too. I think there was a time when he was dirty. Like I said he may be clean now but it doesn't change the fact he was prolly dirty before.

I love watching Marquez, mayweather and pac fight. They all bring something different in the ring. But they all share the status as PED users. Thats reality.

Sorry dude but there almost little to no evidence of Manny using steroids, being a great fighter isn't a indicator which is the only thing you can accuse Manny of.

If that's the case Guys like Hearns and Leonard also used PEDs which is bull.

Marquez is with a chemist with a history and Floyd is basically doing his best impersonation of Lance Armstrong.

The only thing people can say is Manny didn't agree to all the conditions of Floyds drug test which was unprecedented.

Sorry but I'm not one of those guys who going to say all fighters are dirty. To me that's a cop out when said fan favorite fighter has been exposed.

[Spoon23]

Well said. If there was really a smoke it would have come out by now. So many people have crossed paths with Pacquiao in training. 'Till this day no one has any concrete evidence of Pac doping, unlike the other guy who is sticking needles in his veins for IV treatment.. Wether Floyd use peds or not the IV procedure is banned by wada which he clearly violated.

Where is justice? Obviously there was no fair game here.

And I see a pattern among flowtards Here too.

This person says it best,

Amazes me how Floyd fans COMPLETELY overlook the mountain of circumstantial (and factual) evidence (lab report with freakishly low t/e ratio). Highly suspect IV infusion with an enormous amount of fluid cause he "couldn't urinate". But the same guys had no problem chanting "take the test" at Manny with zero evidence other than what Floyd told them to believe. And boxing media, including Bread, giving him the ole' "innocent until proven guilty" bullsh... for a guy who did his best to destroy a man's life and legacy because he was scared to fight....we could have been amazed for years to come at an all time great like Manny, but this creep, narcissist cheater Mayweather did his best to remove that from history. I just hope it doesn't take too long for everything to eventually come out, which it will.


Winking at you ELF- AG

[Mr. Punch-Out!!]

Manny clean? He flat out refused to be tested at his peak.

That doesn't prove that he wasn't clean.

Also, I thought he did agree to a random testing.

[boxinghead530]

Sorry dude but there almost little to no evidence of Manny using steroids, being a great fighter isn't a indicator which is the only thing you can accuse Manny of.

If that's the case Guys like Hearns and Leonard also used PEDs which is bull.

Marquez is with a chemist with a history and Floyd is basically doing his best impersonation of Lance Armstrong.

The only thing people can say is Manny didn't agree to all the conditions of Floyds drug test which was unprecedented.

Sorry but I'm not one of those guys who going to say all fighters are dirty. To me that's a cop out when said fan favorite fighter has been exposed.

Dude if you think me saying pac is dirty to is because I'm a mayweather fan and now I got to lump everyone in you are so wrong. Look at my history of post. I'm more critical against mayweather than most. I do think he is dirty. I love watching manny fight more so than Floyd. But me saying Pac is dirty is because I'm a mayweather fan so I better lump them all in, well you are wrong. Im a boxing fan first. My loyalty is to boxing and i don't hug onto one fighter.

Just look aty history Im more critical of Floyd than any other fighter.

So me saying I think Floyd is dirty, Marquez is dirty and Pac(he may be clean now) was once dirty is coming from a place of putting boxing first and having thinking of we don't need PED users and we need to put them all on blast.

[Spoon23]

Dude if you think me saying pac is dirty to is because I'm a mayweather fan and now I got to lump everyone in you are so wrong. Look at my history of post. I'm more critical against mayweather than most. I do think he is dirty. I love watching manny fight more so than Floyd. But me saying Pac is dirty is because I'm a mayweather fan so I better lump them all in, well you are wrong. Im a boxing fan first. My loyalty is to boxing and i don't hug onto one fighter.

Just look aty history Im more critical of Floyd than any other fighter.

So me saying I think Floyd is dirty, Marquez is dirty and Pac(he may be clean now) was once dirty is coming from a place of putting boxing first and having thinking of we don't need PED users and we need to put them all on blast.

So if you are a non biased fan. Then show us a paper trail of evidence Pac cheated? As Floyd loves to say numbers don't lie. Floyd has 750ml of illegal IV use, low TE ratios. Granted TUEs 3 weeks after the fight. That's red flag all over the place.

By the way if you have been following this IV GATE. Urine samples is as potent as blood samples with CIR testing which is carbon isotope testing can nail a cheat effectively. Which by the way Pac has always agreed to do without any cutoff. Full urine sampled from start, before the fight and even after the fight. Pac only didn't want to be blood drawn near the fight coz he feels it will weaken him which happened to him when he lost to Morales in their first fight with each other. Full ruin sample ever since. Plus Pac did vada as well. The agency that catches cheats unlike USADA.

At this point Hauser only needs those urine samples with Floyd's low TE RATIOS to prove floyd cheated. If Pac was cheating before, it will show up in the urine with CIR testing. But up to this day. All the noise of him doping and not a single ounce of truth to it. Pac's was propaganda to discredit his greatness. Floyd in the other hand has a paper trail of truth that he cheated written all over it.

Now see the truth. It has come full circle. In this day and age urine sample can catch a doper easily.

[Zaroku]

So you're saying you're okay with Floyd cheating? My gosh, dude!

And no, Pacquiao didn't look "one dimensional" and "robotic". He beat Floyd and made him look average. Simple as that.

I am not saying I am okay with Floyd or manny or any boxer cheating! Do I have control over it? NO.

I wish boxing was cleaner, but it isn't! Has not ever been. Anytime you got betting, & money, you are gonna get guys looking for any advantage! Horse racing, baseball, olympics, anything!

Watch this it my make you laugh or realize .....
https://*************/watch?v=jAdG-iTilWU

[Zaroku]

when the going gets tough Floyd fans keeps deflecting. typical

I am not a Floyd fan. I love boxing I think this whole IV issue has a lot of merit & should be looked into. If it doesn't have merit, then ......

But this is the court of public opinion.

Personally, I think this clip speaks to performance issues rather well
https://*************/watch?v=jAdG-iTilWU

[Zaroku]

Regardless if mayweather portrays himself that way I think it they are both dirty. Maybe Pac is clean now but I think it's very likely he has been dirty in the past. So in my book he's dirty. Look I love Pacs heart and desire and his style. I love watching him fight. He's had some amazing fights but I'm not going to let my love of watching a fighter fight cloud my judgement. I love watching all three(pac, Marquez and mayweather)fight but reality is they are dirty and because of that I look at them in a different light. Sucks but that's the way it is.

I agree! Thanks!
https://*************/watch?v=jAdG-iTilWU

[Rath]

I am not a Floyd fan. I love boxing I think this whole IV issue has a lot of merit & should be looked into. If it doesn't have merit, then ......

But this is the court of public opinion.

Personally, I think this clip speaks to performance issues rather well
https://*************/watch?v=jAdG-iTilWU

answer those simple questions and stop deflecting.

why is it so hard for you and sugarkaine to answer those simple questiions