Mayweather's IV injection (Master thread)

[Rath]

Loooooool. You bellend! What makes you think Floyd is considered an International level athlete?

Additionally, it can take up to 21 (or 28) days doesn't imply it will take exactly 21 (or 28) days.

This is the level of IQ I have to deal with? Poor Rath, just poor. I knew you were intellectually challenged, but this takes the cake.

lame comeback

i expect something better from a genius like you

[Rath]

Loooooool. You bellend! What makes you think Floyd is considered an International level athlete?

Additionally, it can take up to 21 (or 28) days doesn't imply it will take exactly 21 (or 28) days.

This is the level of IQ I have to deal with? Poor Rath, just poor. I knew you were intellectually challenged, but this takes the cake.

ok just to make you look more genius this is what you said

natinal athlete level should apply for TUE UP TO 21 days PRIOR

international athlete UP TO 28 days PRIOR

Floyd applied 19 days AFTER. is After synonymous to PRIOR what kind of athlete does he fall into what category now?

SPECIAL TREATMENT kind of athlete?

mr genius

[New England]

I was educating so many people last night regarding this subject the rules are becoming 2nd nature. Let me elaborate the out of context malicious propaganda of what people like to enjoy and cherry pick.

The retroactive TUE protocol was not invented by USADA nor the NSAC, nor any commission or other Anti-Doping agencies such as VADA. It is a code by WADA for the simple logic that ANYTHING can happen to an athlete during the time of a competition. That is common sense. So if something would happen, a guideline must be enforced to adhere to the code, and in Mayweather's case, agents from USADA and as Kevin Iole reported in late May, urine samples (for EPO) were taken before and after. Keep in mind Pac and Floyd are on the Biological Passport clock so monitoring and testing is always enforced and a day later on May 2nd, both fighters provide blood and urine again.

Vitamins and saline are general practice for dehydrated IV patients. There's no such thing in medical practice to provide 50ml of a fluid bag per 6 hour period to rehydrate patients. That's like someone inflating a flat tire only 10% and continuing to drive. A baby infant of less than 5kg requires 200-400ml per 4 hour period. A 15 yr old of 50kg requires 2000ml per 4 hour period. A 50ml bag, which again - people read out of context information - is a bit funny. 50ml IV bags exist in general in the medical world because patients of any sort receive combinations of sources for whatever it is they need for any procedure, not just dehydration. Ever walk into a hospital and you'll see combinations of bags of different sizes...

So why would USADA need to ''deny'' general practice from the medical world? They don't need to play Hauser's game. Imagine a student failing an exam miserable with the Instructor correcting more than 95% of the failed answers yet the student says, ''well I at least got one right...'' and the Instructor says, ''writing your name on the exam doesn't give you any credit.''

Here are is the actual code from WADA:

If a non-prohibited substance is infused or injected without a concurrent hospital admission, surgical procedure or clinical investigation; a TUE must be submitted for this Prohibited Method if more than 50 mL of fluid per a 6-hour period is infused or injected.

If a Prohibited Substance is administered via IV infusion or injection a TUE
application must be submitted for the Prohibited Substance regardless of
whether the infusion is less than 50 mL or the setting/circumstances under
which it is administered. In situations of medical emergency or clinical time
constraints, a retroactive TUE application is acceptable (ISTUE 2015 article 4.3).

a medical emergency like a guy who claims to walk around at 150 lbs being drained down to 147 lbs over the course of a 12 week training camp?


floyd wasn't in any kind of medical emergency. i don't see how one could argue that there were "clinical time constraints" either.


WADA regulates the use of IVs because they can mask PED use.

[Rath]

a medical emergency like a guy who claims to walk around at 150 lbs being drained down to 147 lbs over the course of a 12 week training camp?


floyd wasn't in any kind of medical emergency. i don't see how one could argue that there were "clinical time constraints" either.


WADA regulates the use of IVs because they can mask PED use.

and if for some reason Floyd is on a medical emergency they should have brought him to a mental institution facilities and bring all his minions along

[The Big Dunn]

ok just to make you look more genius this is what you said

natinal athlete level should apply for TUE UP TO 21 days PRIOR

international athlete UP TO 28 days PRIOR

Floyd applied 19 days AFTER. is After synonymous to PRIOR what kind of athlete does he fall into what category now?

SPECIAL TREATMENT kind of athlete?

mr genius

Your last part of the post is really what your issue is. You hate that Floyd recives special treatment. That's how it works when everything is on your back.

Floyd makes everyone a lot of money. He helps businesses make their bottom lines for the year by fighting twice a year. Even on off nights he brings in more than anyone.

That's how the business of sports works. Floyd, LeBron, Messi, Tiger, Kobe, Peyton, Ronaldo-when you make everyone dough you get treated differently.

[Rath]

Your last part of the post is really what your issue is. You hate that Floyd recives special treatment. That's how it works when everything is on your back.

Floyd makes everyone a lot of money. He helps businesses make their bottom lines for the year by fighting twice a year. Even on off nights he brings in more than anyone.

That's how the business of sports works. Floyd, LeBron, Messi, Tiger, Kobe, Peyton, Ronaldo-when you make everyone dough you get treated differently.

probably that's what Floyd and his fans meant when they said

LEVEL PLAYING FIELD

[The Big Dunn]

probably that's what Floyd and his fans meant when they said

LEVEL PLAYING FIELD

Man, stop whining that Floyd is the man and the guy you like isn't. You don't give two shits that special treatment exists, you are just mad the guy you hate gets it while the guy you like doesn't.

[Rath]

Man, stop whining that Floyd is the man and the guy you like isn't. You don't give two shits that special treatment exists, you are just mad the guy you hate gets it while the guy you like doesn't.

i repeat that is the exact definition of level playing field

[b00g13man]

lame comeback

i expect something better from a genius like you

Loool. Typical. You realise you posted in error, and don't have anything to say about it.

Par for the course really.

[ganthet]

a medical emergency like a guy who claims to walk around at 150 lbs being drained down to 147 lbs over the course of a 12 week training camp?


floyd wasn't in any kind of medical emergency. i don't see how one could argue that there were "clinical time constraints" either.


WADA regulates the use of IVs because they can mask PED use.

LMAO exactly. That's what Froid riders keep on ignoring. A retroactive TUE can only be granted for emergency cases. Froid was never in a life or death situation. Because if he really was, not only would he have been rushed to the nearest hospital, he wouldn't even be allowed nor can he fight the very next day after suffering a life threatening medical emergency LOL!

There was absolutely no justification for the retroactive TUE on Mr. Froid Armstrongs case. Which is exactly the reason why they didn't even explain their reasons and justification for approving the retroactive TUE on their 25 page garbage response that really didn't add anything to answer the basic questions of why did they grant the retroactive TUE in the first place LOL