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  • STAX ON DECK
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    #631
    radioraheem do u work for usada???im just cirous,it seems i only ever see u post in drug /PED related threads

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    • radioraheem
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      #632
      Originally posted by IR0NFIST
      The proof is in the pudding, or in this case, the IV bag.

      All jokes aside, the evidence was probably destroyed or locked away in a safe somewhere. The confidentiality clause in the contract made sure of that. USADA is an organization that supposedly prides itself on catching cheaters, yet conveniently provides a way for those very same cheaters to avoid accountability by keeping the results hidden from the public with non-disclosure agreements.

      Cleaning up the sport? More like sweeping the dirt under a rug.
      The proof is in the IV bag? An IV bag consisting of saline and vitamins? Hey, you should be Pacquiao's or Top Rank's attorney. You'd make a fortune.

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      • HeroBando
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        #633
        Originally posted by radioraheem
        The proof is in the IV bag? An IV bag consisting of saline and vitamins? Hey, you should be Pacquiao's or Top Rank's attorney. You'd make a fortune.
        “One of the bolder examples of the use of saline to fool the testers was at the 1998 world championships when Armstrong’s doctor literally smuggled past a UCI official a liter of saline concealed under his rain coat and administered it to Armstrong to lower his hematocrit right before a blood check,” the USADA report reads.
        Read more at http://velonews.competitor.com/2012/...2Iztj64ZWTD.99

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        • radioraheem
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          #634
          Originally posted by HeroBando
          Again, su****ion, or what I like to call 'reaching.'

          What do you say also when the athlete took both a blood and URINE sample? And was randomly tested a day prior as well? Because that quote is more about masking a blood sample.

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            #635
            Originally posted by b00g13man
            It's confirmed. I'm conversing with a dullard. It takes 21 or 28 days to apply for any TUE, hence the 18 or so days for the retroactive one. The difference being a retroactive TUE takes effect from a date in the past, while a regular TUE will take effect from the moment it is granted (or possibly a date in the future).

            If you can't understand this basic principle, we've got nothing further to discuss.
            LMAO nice try. Trying to sneak in a an entirely different circumstance when there is an entirely separate rule that exists specifically for IV Transfusions. This 21 or 28 days you are now hanging on to specifically is the number of days an athlete must apply for a TUE before the event takes place you dumbass. And it only applies under normal circumstances. Where there is an ample amount of time before the event or contest takes place. Again there is an entirely separate page specifically for IV Infusion on USADAs website. Which you also gave in the first place LOL!

            Because in case you intentionally missed it, it states on USADAs link about IV transfusion that "This medical practice is prohibited at all times without prior TUE approval". Again, see link:

            Additionally, there was no mention of any sort of retroactive TUE on that same link. Although there was a mention of an emergency TUE. Now when we visit the WADA link that is also shown there for further details, it shows that what is actually allowed by WADA is for the retroactive application, not the granting. Here's what it says on the link for WADAs page on Intravenous Infusions and/or Injections:

            "In situations of medical emergency or clinical time constraints, a retroactive TUE application is acceptable" See link

            Keyword there is retroactive application, not retroactive approval. And there was also no mention of any sort of retroactive granting or approval in that page as well. NONE. So bye
            Last edited by ganthet; 09-12-2015, 02:05 PM.

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            • HeroBando
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              #636
              Originally posted by radioraheem
              Again, su****ion, or what I like to call 'reaching.'

              What do you say also when the athlete took both a blood and URINE sample? And was randomly tested a day prior as well? Because that quote is more about masking a blood sample.
              Per Floyd and his minions, those urine tests are next to worthless. Though the commission ones are seemingly more effective, every once in a while they catch a cheat that slipped by USADAs far more expensive urine + blood test.

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                #637
                Originally posted by radioraheem
                The proof is in the IV bag? An IV bag consisting of saline and vitamins? Hey, you should be Pacquiao's or Top Rank's attorney. You'd make a fortune.
                Seems like the part where I clearly stated "all jokes aside" completely flew over your head. Lacking a sense of humor much?

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                • radioraheem
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                  #638
                  Originally posted by HeroBando
                  Per Floyd and his minions, those urine tests are next to worthless. Though the commission ones are seemingly more effective, every once in a while they catch a cheat that slipped by USADAs far more expensive urine + blood test.
                  CIR urine test is worthless?

                  NSAC's urine tests are not that stringent, don't test for as many substances as it's advanced random drug testing program does. NSAC has never caught any athlete that slipped by a USADA test by the way.

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                  • HeroBando
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                    #639
                    Originally posted by radioraheem
                    CIR urine test is worthless?

                    NSAC's urine tests are not that stringent, don't test for as many substances as it's advanced random drug testing program does. NSAC has never caught any athlete that slipped by a USADA test by the way.
                    And somehow the commission keeps catching cheats with their less stringent test, starting with the TMT crew. While USADAs more stringent test has so far nabbed one washed up B sider, but the fight still went on as the commission was not informed of several failed B samples. USADA's track record in boxing is pure comedy, you know this by now.

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                    • radioraheem
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                      #640
                      Originally posted by HeroBando
                      Per Floyd and his minions, those urine tests are next to worthless. Though the commission ones are seemingly more effective, every once in a while they catch a cheat that slipped by USADAs far more expensive urine + blood test.
                      Also, here's another fact.

                      NSAC's advanced random drug testing program has never caught any athlete positive yet. Does that prove it's not effective? Does that prove it's less effective than their much weaker non-random post fight urine test?

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