Comments Thread For: Mayweather Under Hot Fire Over USADA/IV Scandal

[-Hyperion-]

He had Hauser rewrite the article and got SBNation to publish it. That's how he is going about it. Smart move on Bob's part.

WHat exactly is Floyd getting away with?

You look like a defense lawyer.....why weren't you defending Pacquiao like this??

Floyd is getting away with an illegal procedure that looks su****iously like a blood flush because he had a "waiver" as you call it that wasn't given by the authority that could actually give it out. The wrong doing was official the moment the NSAC is on record throwing USADA under the bus for this. Floyd is basically clear because NSAC is pinning it all on USADA, not becasue there wasn't any wrong doing.

[DeadLikeMe]

I was unaware they couldn't give out a waiver. I saw NSAC admonish them for taking the IV, which is against WADA protocols.

What should be the punishment for taking an IV of vitamin and saline?

Yeah, what heavy handed punishment will they dole out over excessive usage of oranges and salt water?

[Jsmooth9876]

Dan Rafael's piece on it all. Hadn't seen it added to the thread yet :

Report: Floyd Mayweather used WADA-banned IV before Manny Pacquiao fight

On the eve of his record-breaking megafight with Manny Pacquiao on May 2, pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather took an intravenous injection of saline and vitamins that was banned under World Anti-Doping Agency guidelines, according to a report by SB Nation on Wednesday.

Three weeks after the fight, Mayweather received an exemption from the United States Anti-Doping Agency, the report said. However, Nevada State Athletic Commission executive director Bob Bennett said USADA does not have authorization to grant an exemption. Bennett said only the commission, which was not notified of the exemption until after it was given, can give an athlete an exemption.

Although the substances contained in the IV were not banned by WADA, whose standards USADA says it follows, the fact that they were given intravenously was not allowed.

According to the report, USADA, which had been contracted by Mayweather and Pacquiao to conduct random drug testing for their bout, sent collection agents to Mayweather's house in Las Vegas the night before the fight to conduct an unannounced drug test.

The report was published on the day that Mayweather and Andre Berto held the final news conference for their welterweight championship fight Saturday night at the MGM Grand, which Mayweather has said will be the final bout of his 19-year career.

SB Nation's account said Mayweather's medical team told the collection agents that the IV -- which reportedly included a 250-milliliter mixture of saline and multivitamins and a 500-milliliter mixture of saline and Vitamin C -- was being given to Mayweather for rehydration purposes following the weigh-in.

WADA rules do not allow intravenous infusions or injections of more than 50 milliliters per six hours "except for those legitimately received in the course of hospital admissions, surgical procedures, or clinical investigations."

According to the report, WADA bans such injections and infusions because they can be used to "dilute or mask the presence of another substance."

SB Nation also reported that USADA did not inform the Nevada commission about the IV until May 21, when it sent correspondence to commission officials and Top Rank, Pacquiao's promoter, notifying them that Mayweather had been given a retroactive the****utic-use exemption, which was allowed in the contract the fighters signed to cover the drug-testing protocol for the bout. However, when the commission and Top Rank requested more information about it, they learned Mayweather had not applied for the exemption until May 19. It was granted May 20, the report said.

While Mayweather was given an exemption three weeks after the fight, Pacquiao was denied a request to be injected with the legal painkiller Toradol on fight night to ease pain in his injured rotator cuff, which he had surgery on after the bout. The commission declined Pacquiao's request because it was not made in a timely manner, and he had not previously disclosed the injury.

"The TUE for Mayweather's IV -- and the IV was administered at Floyd's house, not in a medical facility, and wasn't brought to our attention at the time -- was totally unacceptable," Bennett is quoted as saying in the report. "I've made it clear to [USADA CEO] Travis Tygart that this should not happen again. We have the sole authority to grant any and all TUEs in the state of Nevada. USADA is a drug-testing agency. USADA should not be granting waivers and exemptions. Not in this state. We are less than pleased that USADA acted the way it did."

When Mayweather and Pacquiao initially began negotiating a fight in late 2009, it fell apart over a disagreement on drug-testing protocol, which became a major hurdle in making the fight. After Mayweather accused Pacquiao of using performance-enhancing drugs, Pacquiao sued him and Mayweather eventually agreed to an undisclosed seven-figure settlement.

Mayweather was not available for comment Wednesday night.

So he copy and pasted the whole original article lol...way to go Dan.

[SplitSecond]

First off, we have no idea for why he took the IV do we? Rehydration I guess? Is that not an unfair advantage in itself to use an IV for rehydration when it's clearly not allowed?

Who's to say he hasn't been taking them all throughout the testing process to flush his system and mask something else as well? He knew he'd be getting blood tested after the fight which happens every time, so he flushes his system one last time the day before maybe.

You're so quick to make light of it but it wasn't allowed under the rules and after the fact they clear it so it doesn't seem like he cheated to have any advantage when he clearly did.

I don't give a fk who's cheating, boxing was better ten years ago when nobody even talked about it honestly. But to just brush everything aside because it's your guy that cheated shows that you're biased.

Plus

Further, it must be clearly stated that the use of IV fluid replacement following exercise to correct mild rehydration or help speed recovery is not clinically indicated nor substantiated by the medical literature. There is a well-established body of scientific opinion to confirm that oral rehydration is the preferred the****utic choice. Legitimate medical indications for IV infusions are well documented and are most commonly associated with medical emergencies (emergency TUE), in-patient care, surgery, or clinical investigations for diagnostic purposes

http://www.usada.org/is-it-prohibite...-and-recovery/

I doubt Floyd was drained like Oscar vs Pacquiao or Toney vs Roy. He had absolutely no reason to be using the IV, let alone at that dose, let alone without telling anyone, in his house, and no right to be granted a TUE by USADA.

Floyd was without doubt flushing PED's.

[Divine Hammer]

Bob is desperate to try to salvage public interest in Pacquiao

ur hero is a confirmed cheat and a fraud hahahahahahahaha. sad day to be a floyd fart.

[pnksntdead]

It's not very well written, as much of this info was already released and known. Second, it's very biased. There's all types of stuff omitted. For instance, USADA released documents publicly saying that they tested for CIR for every sample (mainly with Mayweather fights since Cotto). He conveniently omits this.

It also omits alot of info with the Peterson vs. Khan scandal, where NSAC was clueless for many weeks about Peterson testing positive for his A sample. And that only Team Peterson knew for many weeks. This was through VADA. It omits the fact that Victor Conte somehow sponsors VADA tests.

He never asks how many times VADA and USADA test fighters and make a comparison regarding the frequency when discussing the costs difference. He never mentions both VADA and USADA both just do training camp tests. And how no one in boxing does 365/24/7 tests, except Nonito Donaire (and the problems with it since there's no penalty right now for out of competition positives). Fails to mention the conflict of interest when boxers are paying for the tests, rather than the Commissions. He paints one side of the coin, but not the other side. And the side of the coin he paints, he doesn't paint fully. He conveniently leaves things out.

Poor reply. Try not to skirt the topic..

It's not an expansive essay regarding the benefits of VADA over USADA bit rather but rather an expose on USADA loose policy regarding TUES and their failure to report to NSAC of Floyd's violations.

Gist of the matter, Floyd violated NSAC rules and was granted a TUE after the fact by USADA. The article is not about whether VADA is any better than USADA. It is about USADA's non-reporting of Floyd's violation and loose policy regarding TUEs. USADA is Floyd's rent-a-testing agency.

[DeadLikeMe]

ur hero is a confirmed cheat and a fraud hahahahahahahaha. sad day to be a floyd fart.

Well, since we've already been over this after the fight once before and nothing happened...what punishment do you think will happen to Floyd for excessive use of vitamin C and salt water?

[Deevel916]

floyd cheated. IV therapy is NOT ALLOWED because one of its main uses is to mask illegal substances. don't give me this "oh he is just rehydrating" excuse hahahahahahahahahahahahaha. floyd's natural weightclass is WELTERWEIGHT. why would he need to go to extremes like IV therapy for simple rehydration???? and it's not even allowed for simple rehydration anyways!! not to mention floyd didn't tell usada about it! (even more shady). and usada instead of immediately informing nsac like they should have they gave floyd a TUE 18 days later!! so nsac was in the dark for at least 18 days!!!

and saline injections can be used to cheat ur blood tests. something lance armstrong did frequently.

floyd CHEATED and USADA helped cover it up for him. in this world $$$$$$$$$$$$ protects u. complete corruption.

This right here is the smoking gun.

[Divine Hammer]

Yeah, what heavy handed punishment will they dole out over excessive usage of oranges and salt water?

http://www.nytimes. com/2012/10/12/sports/cycling/how-lance-armstrong-beat-cyclings-drug-tests.html?_r=0

When the testers could not be avoided, Armstrong and his teammates turned to drug masking, the report said. It indicated that during the 1998 world championships, testers were diverted to other riders on the United States team while one of Armstrong’s doctors “smuggled a bag of saline under his raincoat, getting it past the tester and administering saline to Armstrong before Armstrong was required to provide a blood sample.”

The saline infusion restored Armstrong’s blood values to a level that would not attract attention.

get a clue. ur hero is a cheat. why would he need to go to extremes for IV therapy for simple rehydration (which isn't allowed by wada code)?????? why take that risk when THERE ARE MANY OTHER MORE BENEFICIAL WAYS TO REHYDRATE LIKE DRINKING FRICKIN LIQUIDS. hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha u floyd farts can't accept the truth and it's sad. ur hero is a fraud and a cheat. who knows for how long too.

[Beercules]

Floyd must have been severely dehydrated from cutting those 3 pounds.