Comments Thread For: Merchant: Mayweather Should Face Golovkin, He's Afraid

[Drunken Cat]

He straight up said he picked him at the right time. A welter (who is regarded as one of the absolute best) had to wait for the right time to move up 2 divisions. Mayweather has fought in 5 weight classes. Be objective. Why do I have to spell this out for you...aren't you claiming you watch boxing and are a serious fan???

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The voice of serious boxing fans is a hypocrit, that's just funny.

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Your point on Hagler being a killer is so moot. Manny was #2 p4p and everyone was still begging for the fight. It's easy to talk about fights after the fact but if Manny wasn't a legit contender the Vegas spread would have definitely reflected this. Vegas most always sets lines accordingly in sporting events.

I never even said Leonard was better than Floyd (though it's a debatable point). I was pointing out that Larry remembers that era, in the context of it might even be skewing his judgment.

Okay, Leonard fought him at the right time. It's not as though that was Leonard's first big test, or as if he didn't move up weightclasses for the fight, to take on an absolute killer.

By the way, I rate Hagler higher than Floyd all-time. As I think anyone truly familiar with boxing history should.

[Drunken Cat]

You're also pretty sure that he hasn't fought an intriguing fight since Castillo but he had 2 of his closest Vegas spreads post Castillo (Canelo and Pac).

You stay taking L's.

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You're "pretty sure" that you won the rounds yet all that you have said is your opinion of what defines greatness and insinuated that you speak for serious boxing fans. I haven't done anything or made one argument outside of poking holes at your swiss cheese opinion.

More L's for the man.

The Pac fight was 6 years in the making. Both guys are past their prime. In my humble opinion, Pac has slipped more. Back when Pac was prime it would've been a much more interesting fight. Moneid interests blocked the fight from happening, which weren't the direct fault of either guy.

The Canello fight was a good solid matchup.

Floyd's career has still been carefully managed.

He's the richest athlete in the world now, it is pretty damn hard to fault a guy for that. They've done a good job.

He has still not really truly tested himself against the best, at their best, very much. Maidana is at a high level in his career. Floyd had to supersede the rules and block him from using his preferred gloves, though.

It was probably just psychological games.

Yet, it put a stain on the fight. Especially seeing as Maidana hit him with some good shots early.

I don't know how you can call me biased, when all you are doing is running in here to tell us how much Floyd's **** tastes good.

[Espy]

I never even said Leonard was better than Floyd (though it's a debatable point). I was pointing out that Larry remembers that era, in the context of it might even be skewing his judgment.

Okay, Leonard fought him at the right time. It's not as though that was Leonard's first big test, or as if he didn't move up weightclasses for the fight, to take on an absolute killer.

By the way, I rate Hagler higher than Floyd all-time. As I think anyone truly familiar with boxing history should.

I rate Leonard higher than Floyd....funny that "serious boxing fans" rated Floyd above Hagler before he beat Manny.

take a gander for yourself:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=653826

Quite the serious boxing fan we got here. Doesn't know history though.

[Drunken Cat]

I rate Leonard higher than Floyd....funny that "serious boxing fans" rated Floyd above Hagler before he beat Manny.

take a gander for yourself:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=653826

Quite the serious boxing fan we got here. Doesn't know history though.

For clarification purposes, the 'serious boxing fans' was paraphrasing Larry Merchant's remarks in the article (which you may or may not have read).

[Espy]

The Pac fight was 6 years in the making. Both guys are past their prime. In my humble opinion, Pac has slipped more. Back when Pac was prime it would've been a much more interesting fight. Moneid interests blocked the fight from happening, which weren't the direct fault of either guy.

The Canello fight was a good solid matchup.

Floyd's career has still been carefully managed.

He's the richest athlete in the world now, it is pretty damn hard to fault a guy for that. They've done a good job.

He has still not really truly tested himself against the best, at their best, very much. Maidana is at a high level in his career. Floyd had to supersede the rules and block him from using his preferred gloves, though.

It was probably just psychological games.

Yet, it put a stain on the fight. Especially seeing as Maidana hit him with some good shots early.

I don't know how you can call my biased, when all you are doing is running in here to tell us how much Floyd's **** tastes good.

So now your opinion is "humble" but before you spoke on behalf of "serious boxing fans"

Floyd hasn't had an "intriguing matchup" since Castillo yet you concede ground on the Canelo fight.

I'm the one who's sucking Floyd off yet haven't made one post about him being greater than any fighter but you've conceded every point you "made".

Bro, log off.

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All of the things you said about Pac vs Mayweather apply to Hagler vs Leonard. You literally make no sense.

[Espy]

For clarification purposes, the 'serious boxing fans' was paraphrasing Larry Merchant's remarks in the article (which you may or may not have read).

English is a beautiful language, if you wish to paraphrase and reference learn to use the language properly as all of the tools for you to do so are available.

Edit: Just in case you don't understand my point here, I read what you said literally because you made no reference to the article, you didn't use quotations, you didn't say "the serious boxing fans that Merchant was referring to" or anything of that nature.

You came in here speaking your opinion as if you were in line with most or all serious boxing fans. That was not the case.

Just say what you really want to say. You hate Mayweather because you personally don't like his style.

It's one thing to say you don't rank him highly because you dislike his style and personally don't like his character, but to say serious boxing fans don't rank him among the best, and then provide no evidence to back this claim up is really ridiculous.

I'm just pointing out the ******ity in your argument. You are entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to ether it.

[Drunken Cat]

I haven't conceded a thing, and you are a moron who can't understand rhetoric.

You don't deserve the time of day.

I'm pretty sure anyone watching knows who has won this debate.

Not that I wanted a debate of it, but you are too immature to read an opinion dissenting from your one without acting out.

[Zaroku]

the old rusty bastard that claims to be a boxing expert knows good and dam well ,mayweather is way to small for golovkin. alvarez and cotto both are bigger and stronger than mayweather who fights at 147, but he skips them and criticize money. GTFO merchant.

Larry is crazy! Why not have Floyd fight kovalev. ****** comment from an old coot!

[Drunken Cat]

English is a beautiful language, if you wish to paraphrase and reference learn to use the language properly as all of the tools for you to do so are available.

Edit: Just in case you don't understand my point here, I read what you said literally because you made no reference to the article, you didn't use quotations, you didn't say "the serious boxing fans that Merchant was referring to" or anything of that nature.

You came in here speaking your opinion as if you were in line with most or all serious boxing fans. That was not the case.

Just say what you really want to say. You hate Mayweather because you personally don't like his style.

It's one thing to say you don't rank him highly because you dislike his style and personally don't like his character, but to say serious boxing fans don't rank him among the best, and then provide no evidence to back this claim up is really ridiculous.

I'm just pointing out the ******ity in your argument. You are entitled to your opinion and I'm entitled to ether it.

Ummmmmmmm, actually as I stated in this thread, I respect Mayweather, and consider myself a fan of his.

I don't like all of his antics. But I chalk it down as promotion.

And I don't consider there to be a need to quote an article, in a comments thread about said-same article.

One more thing. I speak and write better English than you, I can assure you. I am not a non-native English speaker, you racist piece of shit. I do indeed live in the Land of the Rising Sun. I wasn't born here.

By the way, if you want to get personal, what the hell have you done with your life lately?

You are probably posting at your parents' house right now.

[Espy]

Ummmmmmmm, actually as I stated in this thread, I respect Mayweather, and consider myself a fan of his.

I don't like all of his antics. But I chalk it down as promotion.

And I don't consider there to be a need to quote an article, in a comments thread about said-same article.

One more thing. I speak and write better English than you, I can assure you. I am not a non-native English speaker, you racist piece of shit. I do indeed live in the Land of the Rising Sun. I wasn't born here.

By the way, if you want to get personal, what the hell have you done with your life lately?

You are probably posting at your parents' house right now.

I highly doubt you speak and write better than I do because you don't realize that everything I've said about your posts refuted every "point" you made in this thread.

Just like you interpreted my comment on learning how to use English properly as a racist comment. I didn't even insinuate that you were from a different county, that English was your second language or anything of that nature. You simply assumed that. I was just saying that if you want to make a reference to the article when you state the opinion of "serious boxing fans" that you should do so clearly. That is a CLEAR indicator of lack of comprehension. Also IN MY OPINION a sign of insecurity on your supposed mastery of the English language.

Yet you have a great grasp on the English. I haven't once made a comment on Mayweather other than refuting the gibberish that you post. I haven't compared him to an active fighter, I haven't done anything to "lick his ****" as you so eloquently put it. I've just pointed out the hypocrisy of your rationale and called you an idiot for spreading your opinion as fact. I simply provided facts to show you how much of your agenda is based on personal opinion and how the "serious boxing fans" you referred to actually disagree with your opinion.

How are you not getting this?