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**Caught Square** · 09-07-2015, 09:45 AM

I don't think all these questions will be answered just by Floyd retiring for example I don't really think anyone in particular at 147 would be the man to beat UNLESS Buster Berto pulls off the upset then of course everyone will want him.

So to answer your last question yes we will start seeing fights from 140-154 being made because they will have to earn that right to be the man.

**Da Boxer** · 09-07-2015, 09:46 AM

Originally posted by BertoRollin'

A lot will change on Sunday the 13th upon Floyd's retirement.

Who is the new #1 p4p?
Roman Gonzalez
Wladmir Klitchko
Guillermo Rigondeaux
Andre Ward
Gennady Golovkin
Sergey Kovalev
Manny Pacquiao

Who is the man to beat at 147?

Manny Pacquiao
Timothy Bradley
Kell Brook
Shawn Porter
Keith Thurman

Who is the man to beat at 154?

Erislandy Lara or will Canelo and Cotto move down?

Who will be public enemy #1?

Andre Ward
Adrien Broner
Gennady Golovkin
Danny Garcia

Who will emerge as the new face of the sport?

Canelo
Gennady Golovkin
Andre Ward
Sergey Kovalev
Vasyl Lomachenko
Terrence Crawford

Who is the next superstar to emerge?

Felix Verdejo
Errol Spence Jr.
Oscar Valdez

And most importantly, will we finally start to see fights being made from 140-154?

My choices based on your options in BOLD!

**Bushbaby** · 09-07-2015, 09:53 AM

Originally posted by BertoRollin'

A lot will change on Sunday the 13th upon Floyd's retirement.

Who is the new #1 p4p?

Roman Gonzalez
Wladmir Klitchko
Guillermo Rigondeaux
Andre Ward
Gennady Golovkin
Sergey Kovalev
Manny Pacquiao

Who is the man to beat at 147?

Manny Pacquiao
Timothy Bradley
Kell Brook
Shawn Porter
Keith Thurman

Who is the man to beat at 154?

Erislandy Lara or will Canelo and Cotto move down?

Who will be public enemy #1?

Andre Ward
Adrien Broner
Gennady Golovkin
Danny Garcia

Who will emerge as the new face of the sport?

Canelo
Gennady Golovkin
Andre Ward
Sergey Kovalev
Vasyl Lomachenko
Terrence Crawford

Who is the next superstar to emerge?

Felix Verdejo
Errol Spence Jr.
Oscar Valdez

And most importantly, will we finally start to see fights being made from 140-154?

A lot has changed already, (thank goodness). And tbh, a lot of it is due to Al Haymon. Fights are back on primetime. But not just any fights. Actual name brand fighters. That's crazy to me that certain fans actually find something to complain about there.

Your 1st point was pfp. A rather worthless term in today's tradition. It simply has replaced the original meaning with star and draw power. If pfp stayed true to it's original form, you'd be hard pressed to find a fighter higher than say a Rigo (an example).

As far as the man to beat at 147? Well we'll find out for sure once Floyd is gone. (Can't wait for that). There is too much talent there and grreat fights to be made, for a dude like Berto to be fighting the self proclaimed best ever. What I can say, is that the man to beat at 147 won't be Pacman.

154, is also up in the air. Them bwoys need to sort it out.

The face of the sport will probably be occupied by the winner of Cotto/Canelo and GGG/limuex (spellcheck).

Public enemies are still going to be AB and DSG for vastly different reasons however.

But your most importantly is most important. With Floyd gone, these guys can duke it out and make the fights that are supposed to be made without Floyd hogging the spotlight fighting the Berto's of the world. Good riddance. Khan can shut his trap and earn the top spot by fighting 147's best. And so can every other welterweight!!

**Weebler I** · 09-07-2015, 10:04 AM

Originally posted by BertoRollin'

Who will be public enemy #1?

Andre Ward
Adrien Broner
Gennady Golovkin
Danny Garcia

Golovkin provided he keeps winning, too many fanbases against him.

Who will emerge as the new face of the sport?

Canelo
Gennady Golovkin
Andre Ward
Sergey Kovalev
Vasyl Lomachenko
Terrence Crawford

It's Manny Pacquiao until he decides to turn it in.

If Tyson Fury beats Klitchko he can do big numbers for while.

Who is the next superstar to emerge?

Felix Verdejo
Errol Spence Jr.
Oscar Valdez

None of those three, the Latinos are too small, Spence not a KO artist and not a big talker.

If Joshua isn't KO'd he has a chance.

And most importantly, will we finally start to see fights being made from 140-154?

140 yes, the others probably not.

**NEETzsche** · 09-07-2015, 11:14 AM

lomachenko is the only possible phenomenon that i can see. the others are either too old or too flawed imo. if loma gets the fights he needs within the next 12-18 months - namely rigondeaux, valdez, walters and/or gamboa - then he could potentially blow away the competition in the p4p stakes. however, arum needs to pull his finger out for that to happen

numbers-wise, golovkin versus cotto or alvarez will surely determine the next ratings king

**Golden Boi 360** · 09-07-2015, 11:30 AM

what if Berto wins? lol

the chaos would be sick

**seReal Killer** · 09-07-2015, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by BertoRollin'

A lot will change on Sunday the 13th upon Floyd's retirement.

Who is the new #1 p4p?

Roman Gonzalez
Wladmir Klitchko
Guillermo Rigondeaux
Andre Ward
Gennady Golovkin
Sergey Kovalev
Manny Pacquiao

Who is the man to beat at 147?

Manny Pacquiao
Timothy Bradley
Kell Brook
Shawn Porter
Amir Khan
Keith Thurman

Who is the man to beat at 154?

Erislandy Lara or will Canelo and Cotto move down?

Who will be public enemy #1?

Andre Ward
Adrien Broner
Gennady Golovkin
Danny Garcia

Who will emerge as the new face of the sport?

Canelo
Gennady Golovkin
Andre Ward
Sergey Kovalev
Vasyl Lomachenko
Terrence Crawford

Who is the next superstar to emerge?

Felix Verdejo
Errol Spence Jr.
Oscar Valdez

And most importantly, will we finally start to see fights being made from 140-154? NO

Bolded and Underlined the answers.

**Bushbaby** · 09-07-2015, 11:55 AM

Originally posted by seReal Killer

Bolded and Underlined the answers.

How would Amir Khan be the man to beat at 147?

**Eff Pandas** · 09-07-2015, 12:03 PM

Originally posted by BertoRollin'

A lot will change on Sunday the 13th upon Floyd's retirement.

Who is the new #1 p4p?

Roman Gonzalez
Wladmir Klitchko
Guillermo Rigondeaux
Andre Ward
Gennady Golovkin
Sergey Kovalev
Manny Pacquiao

I think immediately it'll be Gonzalez or Klitschko, who I believe are typically the highest ranked iirc in most polls I see. I think Ward is likely to scoop it up on a more long term basis once he notches a notable W, although that seems to be a problem for him to line up these days so who knows. I do give a chance to GGG or Canelo (whoever wins between them & assuming they keep winning) of taking the #1 spot in the very near future too.

Who is the man to beat at 147?

Manny Pacquiao
Timothy Bradley
Kell Brook
Shawn Porter
Keith Thurman

Til Pacquiao retires he'll be the new guy to beat @ 147 although I' sure many will argue Thurman or Brook, but til Thurman or Brook beat a top 3, top 5 guy I think its hype more than substance.

Who is the man to beat at 154?

Erislandy Lara or will Canelo and Cotto move down?

I think Lara is the guy to beat @ 154 right now even if he's not done much to get excited about lately. He's gotten there by default with Canelo's weird 155lb deal lately, but til Canelo decides he's fighting at 154 its all Lara.

Who will be public enemy #1?

Andre Ward
Adrien Broner
Gennady Golovkin
Danny Garcia

Hating on Broner feels like hating on the bully you just beat up these days so while he's easily the most obnoxious guy around besides Fury hating him seems like picking on a person in a wheelchair a lil bit to me lol. I think being #1 tends to get you hate in particular when you got a self righteous vibe no one or few are buying so I gotta go with hate. I do feel at a certain point, like with Pacquiao that GGG's continued success will lead to him garnering more haters, but he's such a happy go lucky cat I think it'll seem like those guys who hate too hard on Floyd or Manny today & not come close to the people who love him like with Manny so Ward might be the best bet, but Garcia & his dad seem to be trying to get this title with so many of their moves since the Khan W.

Who will emerge as the new face of the sport?

Canelo
Gennady Golovkin
Andre Ward
Sergey Kovalev
Vasyl Lomachenko
Terrence Crawford

I think Crawford is too black & too from Nebraska & I think his chin might end up making for some interesting fights for him soon so I think his destiny of being the next PPV star for TR is going to become a punchline in 5+ years at how unlikely it was of ever happening.

Loma even with his impressive resume is a lil guy & lil guys never get love the way 140lb-160lb guys get. I think his lack of experience will end up kicking his can down the road a ways & maybe next time someone big retires he might be more in the discussion.

Kov comes off like a huge ******* once you delve a lil into the Kov story so I can't see him catching fire like some feel he can. He'll be fun to watch, but he has negative charisma points. I think taking some pointers from Mayweather & Ivan Drago is better suited for Kov & wouldn't feel as fake as the persona Duva is trying to push.

Ward, GGG & Canelo. I feel like someone from this mix will end up being the guy. GGG vs Canelo seems like the most likely fight we'll be seeing soon among top guys so that fight right there could very well decide it, but if GGG wins I think his resume is the more lacking resume so he still might be required to get another notable win & that could get Ward into the mix or Ward might get himself in the mix. I think Ward is the most talented guy, but he seems to be sitting on his hands career-wise lately & until that changes he's more potentially this or that than anything else.

Who is the next superstar to emerge?

Felix Verdejo
Errol Spence Jr.
Oscar Valdez

I like all these guys, but I think Verdejo will end up being the most exceptional among them. I'm a fan of Spence, but I feel like he's being a bit oversold. For a guy being hyped as much as he is I feel like he doesn't got the type of history I usually like to see in "the next superstar". I wanna see those type of guys starting boxing in the single digit or early double digit years & iirc Spence started boxing at 16, which feels later than I'd like for me personally.

And most importantly, will we finally start to see fights being made from 140-154?

I think until the power structure in boxing changes this will always be a problem to one degree or another. Some times will seem more exciting, some times will seem more dry, but it'll never be what it could be til there are less chiefs in boxing trying to run **** so its either gonna be a matter of change happening (not likely) or just the flow of the water making it happen (which is a hard thing to predict).

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