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  • #11
    Originally posted by Jc8804 View Post
    He was overhyped to begin with. Floyd fans hyped him up knowing it was an easy victory coming. He was young and green and his biggest wins were vs two 140 pounders in josesito lopez and alfonzo gomez at 154. Trought was a controversial fight in twxas that most think trout won.

    His mexican heritage got him the fight.
    Erm.....Floyd fans weren't the ones claiming he was scared of, and would duck Canelo

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    • #12
      unfortunately, one of the negative aspects Floyd has introduced to the sport is this idea that if you have lost you are damaged goods and not worthy of respect. However if you are a real fan of the sport you would know that this concept is about garbage.

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      • #13
        It depends on whom they lose to. Look at Carl Froch: he lost to Kessler and Ward, but went on to have a successful career. If someone fights the best, and gives a good account for themselves, people will accept that they lost to a top class fighter and move on.

        It is also about marketing the fighters accordingly. Let us take a look at Adrien Broner: he was marketed as the next Mayweather, but he went on to get his ass ripped by Marcos Maidana; that is what you call unfulfilled expectations. If he was marketed accordingly, people would see him as a guy who put on a spirited performance as opposed to someone who did not live up to the hype.

        I don't think Canelo is a prime example. Not much has really changed for him.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
          Thats nuts. If you don't think GGG is gonna be called a bum if he loses to Lemieux you are fooling yourself. And Lemieux will definitely be getting called a bum & told he should retire if he loses.
          He did say "going away", it will take boxing some time to get rid of this flawed mentality which costs fans good fights.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by boxingfan4life View Post
            For the last few years I've noticed that once a fighter loses for the first time, all of sudden he is exposed and done for. Really? When did this become the standard? Prime example is Canelo Alvarez. When Floyd beat him everybody was saying he was exposed and no good. The kid wasn't even 25 when he fought against the best boxer in the world. Can some of you guys on here let me know what you think.
            Losses have always been setbacks. But fighters used to fight more often so they could redeem themselves faster.

            When you fight 2x per year and lose once, it could take years to get back to the level you were at.

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            • #16
              That's just how some idiots think, a loss doesn't actually kill anyone's career. Fighters with losses are always coming back. Alvarez's career hasn't gone down since he lost. If anything he's bigger now. Adrien Broner is the definition of a true exposed hype job and he is still selling tickets and getting title shots.

              A dozen posters on NSB isn't the entire boxing culture. Some people here may be desperate to write off someone who loses as a hype job who sucks but it doesn't usually matter to a fighter's ability to earn and be a success.
              Last edited by bojangles1987; 09-01-2015, 05:50 AM.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by boxingfan4life View Post
                For the last few years I've noticed that once a fighter loses for the first time, all of sudden he is exposed and done for. Really? When did this become the standard? Prime example is Canelo Alvarez. When Floyd beat him everybody was saying he was exposed and no good. The kid wasn't even 25 when he fought against the best boxer in the world. Can some of you guys on here let me know what you think.
                I don't think that's true now or ever. There may be a few fans who think that but it's rare to be undefeated for long. And undefeated does not mean that the fighter is the best in the world. Joe Gans, Willie Pep, Hank Armstrong, SRR, Ali all had defeats.

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                • #18
                  It seems to be the norm on here unfortunately. A fighter loses a fight and suddenly he's been 'exposed'.
                  If BoxingScene was around back in the day, Ali, SSR, Leonard and Duran would all of been 'exposed' apparently. And therefore not worthy of any big future fights.
                  ''Anyone want to see Benitez Vs Duran?''...''Nah, Benitez got Leonard problems''.

                  Maybe fighters feel they need to remain un-beaten to be the 'A side' and attract the PPV numbers. It's not the best news for fans though as the more the emphasis is put on the '0', then the more likelihood that fighters won't take the competitive fights.

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                  • #19
                    Because casual fans feel like boxers need to remain with their 0 aka the Floyd fan brigade.

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                    • #20
                      It depends on the type of loss. A close defeat to a top fighter? They'll live. But a brutal KO to a fringe contender nobody heard of? That could be hard to overcome if you're marketed as the next big thing. People are still bringing up Prescott when they talk about Khan.

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