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  • Why in today's boxing, only 1 defeat is a career ender

    For the last few years I've noticed that once a fighter loses for the first time, all of sudden he is exposed and done for. Really? When did this become the standard? Prime example is Canelo Alvarez. When Floyd beat him everybody was saying he was exposed and no good. The kid wasn't even 25 when he fought against the best boxer in the world. Can some of you guys on here let me know what you think.

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    I couldn't agree anymore. I think the culture of the "A-side" and PPV fights have done this. All the prospects, contenders and young champs rarely face each other in their respective primes. I think the more and more they face each other the less a single loss will be seen as a career ender.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by boxingfan4life View Post
      For the last few years I've noticed that once a fighter loses for the first time, all of sudden he is exposed and done for. Really? When did this become the standard? Prime example is Canelo Alvarez. When Floyd beat him everybody was saying he was exposed and no good. The kid wasn't even 25 when he fought against the best boxer in the world. Can some of you guys on here let me know what you think.
      I agree but I think with Mexicn fighters like Canelo it's different, Canelo got outclassed and then almost lost again to Lara but his fans have been very loyal to him and now he got another chance to fight for the biggest payday of his career, not necessarily because of his talent or accomplishments in the ring, but mainly due to his huge fans base in Mexico, Mexican fans are very loyal man, they support their fighters no matter what.

      American fans however don't know what loyality means in boxing nowadays, once u lose u r a bum that just got exposed, American fans give foreign fighters chances but when the American fighter loses he's written off completely, that's just the way it is.

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      • #4
        Completely agree. Boxing fans now demand perfection from their fighters, which is likely a by-product of the Mayweather era. Even fighters who are undefeated that have been knocked down are also deemed as 'exposed'.

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        • #5
          once mayweather retires itll be cool again.
          u can already see this trend going away with oscars fights. woot.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by boxingfan4life View Post
            For the last few years I've noticed that once a fighter loses for the first time, all of sudden he is exposed and done for. Really? When did this become the standard? Prime example is Canelo Alvarez. When Floyd beat him everybody was saying he was exposed and no good. The kid wasn't even 25 when he fought against the best boxer in the world. Can some of you guys on here let me know what you think.

            He was overhyped to begin with. Floyd fans hyped him up knowing it was an easy victory coming. He was young and green and his biggest wins were vs two 140 pounders in josesito lopez and alfonzo gomez at 154. Trought was a controversial fight in twxas that most think trout won.

            His mexican heritage got him the fight.

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            • #7
              I think the "one loss you suck, two losses you should retire" mindset sucks, but the logic of it does kinda make sense when you think about how boxing works these days.

              I feel like overall in the sport records are more manufactured than ever. Granted there are guys like Loma & Rigo who are outliers who've been thrown into the fire early. And there have always been outliers like Tyson, Mayweather, Vargas & Fenech who got thrown into the fire quickly also. Mainly though, normally what happens is guys who have a real future in boxing are put in against guys who are supposed to lose for about the first 3 to 5 years of their careers.

              When most of the best guys in the sport have only a handful of really threatening opponents on their resume one L on there does hurt your career outlook drastically in the eyes of fans who see how boxing record building works these days. This would unfairly judge those outliers I mentioned & others taking on elite opposition early & often, but the standard is so low for building records & that strategy is so common more often than not having a lower opinion of a guy with a L or multiple L's makes sense for those not taking the time to properly judge resumes/records.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by nivek535 View Post
                once mayweather retires itll be cool again.
                u can already see this trend going away with oscars fights. woot.
                Thats nuts. If you don't think GGG is gonna be called a bum if he loses to Lemieux you are fooling yourself. And Lemieux will definitely be getting called a bum & told he should retire if he loses.

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                • #9
                  once mayweather retires itll be cool again.
                  u can already see this trend going away with oscars fights. woot.
                  Completely agree. Boxing fans now demand perfection from their fighters, which is likely a by-product of the Mayweather era. Even fighters who are undefeated that have been knocked down are also deemed as 'exposed'.
                  Damn, I didn't know Mayweather was responsible for every single bad thing in boxing.....I've seen ******, so called fans call a variety of different fighter bums after they've experienced a loss.

                  The idea that a fighter is shot after one loss has more to do with the silly fans than the actual boxers.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by firstborn View Post
                    Damn, I didn't know Mayweather was responsible for every single bad thing in boxing.....I've seen ******, so called fans call a variety of different fighter bums after they've experienced a loss.

                    The idea that a fighter is shot after one loss has more to do with the silly fans than the actual boxers.
                    I agree with you on that. Most so called fans today think for some odd reason to be considered a good fighter you have to stay undefeated. Maybe they all expect everyone to be like Floyd or something. People may hate him but obviously he set some kind of standard

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