True or False: James Toney's win over Michael Nunn is better than any win of Floyd's?

[Ahmed_Ismail]

Nunn was a much better fighter than Bradley. No point in discussing that at all.

Skills for skills he was, but when u compare accomplishments they're very close and that was my point, Bradley had a great run at 140 just like the run Nunn had before he fought Toney. There were a lot of talented fighters that acvomplished less than much lesser fighters, and that's irrelevant, only accomplishments matter, not potential cuz nobody can predict the future.

[BrometheusBob.]

Skills for skills he was, but when u compare accomplishments they're very close and that was my point, Bradley had a great run at 140 just like the run Nunn had before he fought Toney. There were a lot of talented fighters that acvomplished less than much lesser fighters, and that's irrelevant, only accomplishments matter, not potential cuz nobody can predict the future.

True, and I have actually generally felt that Bradley is underrated by fans. That being said, I wouldn't say Bradley was a bigger win than Nunn and I don't imagine many would.

[LacedUp]

I'm pretty sure he was.

When the odds opened he was but they got shorter by fight night.

When the betting first started Mayweather was a clear underdog but as the fight got closer the odds were pretty close but I remember Floyd being a slight underdog right before the fight

I remember it being a dead even 50-50 fight. I certainly remember Mayweather not being "the clear underdog".

Skills for skills he was, but when u compare accomplishments they're very close and that was my point, Bradley had a great run at 140 just like the run Nunn had before he fought Toney. There were a lot of talented fighters that acvomplished less than much lesser fighters, and that's irrelevant, only accomplishments matter, not potential cuz nobody can predict the future.

Michael Nunn was a great champion. Much better than Bradley easy.

Donald Curry, Iran Barkely, Kalambay .. Those three alone is better than anything bradley has (legitimately) accomplished. We're talking HOFamers here. Honestly, Bradley has gone life and death with extremely average fighters who's got names for some reason like Holt and Alexander.

When has Bradley put a clinic on a top fighter like Nunn did against Curry? Or destroyed a HOFamer in their prime like Nunn did againt Kalambay?

There's no competition here.

[LacedUp]

True, and I have actually generally felt that Bradley is underrated by fans. That being said, I wouldn't say Bradley was a bigger win than Nunn and I don't imagine many would.

Great run?

Witter, Alexander, Holt, Peterson? Where's the greatness because I'm missing it.

All of those are dead average who any half-decent world champion should be able to beat a lot easier than Bradley did.

[Ahmed_Ismail]

True, and I have actually generally felt that Bradley is underrated by fans. That being said, I wouldn't say Bradley was a bigger win than Nunn and I don't imagine many would.

No it wasnt better than Toney vs Nunn cuz he already lost the first fight to Pacquiao and in that first fight Bradley was moving up in weight to challenge Pacquiao, all are things that take away from Pacquiao's victory over Bradley when he was rated P4P (the rematch )

[b00g13man]

Is anyone surprised that Pacquaio is considered a cherry pick now after Floyd's beaten him?

We've seen this film a few times already people.

We have indeed. It's just embarrassing now.

On topic, why does a singular victory matter, given that the rest of Toney's resume doesn't stack up?

[LacedUp]

We have indeed. It's just embarrassing now.

On topic, why does a singular victory matter, given that the rest of Toney's resume doesn't stack up?

Who's arguing Toney is greater than Mayweather? No one with a brain. Talent-wise in his prime? Debatable. Accomplishments? Mayweather by 25 miles.

But Michael Nunn is very arguably the best win on either resume.

[Ahmed_Ismail]

Great run?

Witter, Alexander, Holt, Peterson? Where's the greatness because I'm missing it.

All of those are dead average who any half-decent world champion should be able to beat a lot easier than Bradley did.

U see u still dont get my point, I agree that NOW these fighters are average, but going into the Bradley fight they had a lot of potential, so u can't take away from Bradley's victories cuz he's not a psychic, he didn't know that their careers would go down the ****terAFTER he fought them, he fought them when they were THE guys at 140, and he beat them, and for that he deserves credit!

[LacedUp]

U see u still dont get my point, I agree that NOW these fighters are average, but going into the Bradley fight they had a lot of potential, so u can't take away from Bradley's victories cuz he's not a psychic, he didn't know that their careers would go down the ****terAFTER he fought them, he fought them when they were THE guys at 140, and he beat them, and for that he deserves credit!

Well, they were also pretty average when they fought Bradley though. Junior Witter was never seen as anything special in the UK. We didn't have many champions at the time, so that should tell you something. He was just OK.

Kendall Holt and Lamont Peterson? Meh. Also then, not great fights just good.

Devon Alexander was seen as a top fight for some odd reason. I will never know how, I always thought he was extremely average.

Amir Khan would have been the defining fight for Bradley at 140. Of course we all know how that went, and in my opinion there were better fighters at the time he could have fought like Matthysse or even Olusegun who's a helluva strong fighter and undefeated at the time.

Bradley did good at 140. But it wasn't spectacular by any means. And he certainly didn't clear out 140 like Garcia did for example - the greater 140er of the two imo.

[IronDanHamza]

I remember it being a dead even 50-50 fight. I certainly remember Mayweather not being "the clear underdog".



Michael Nunn was a great champion. Much better than Bradley easy.

Donald Curry, Iran Barkely, Kalambay .. Those three alone is better than anything bradley has (legitimately) accomplished. We're talking HOFamers here. Honestly, Bradley has gone life and death with extremely average fighters who's got names for some reason like Holt and Alexander.

When has Bradley put a clinic on a top fighter like Nunn did against Curry? Or destroyed a HOFamer in their prime like Nunn did againt Kalambay?

There's no competition here.

He defintely opened up as an underdog.

Like I said they got closer by fight night.