Comments Thread For: Cotto, Canelo, De La Hoya on Facing GGG-Lemieux Winner

[HeroBando]

The point is..... Reynoso was asked why Canelo doesn't move up to JMW, considering that his last few fights had been at 150.

Reynose stated that Canelo could still make 147, but it is hard work, so they would prefer to come in at 150 unless its for a big fight.

The reasoning was..... it will preserve Canelos career.

They are abviously doing the exact same thing at JMW.

155 is 1lb over FFS, get a grip you tossers

Yes it is lame, yes it is self-entitled rubbish.... but NO, it is not MW LMFAO

So they made his first title bout vs Matt Hatton at 150, and he came in 152, couldn't go lower. Now he was asking 156, Cotto insisted on 155. People grow, you know, esp younger ones. Is that how it is back home?

He better get used to being a MW if he wins that WBC/lineal belt. Shouldn't be a problem, he's been 174 fight night. Else he can drop the belt, but that wouldn't be Mexican style

[aboutfkntime]

So they made his first title bout vs Matt Hatton at 150, and he came in 152, couldn't go lower. Now he was asking 156, Cotto insisted on 155. People grow, you know, esp younger ones. Is that how it is back home?

He better get used to being a MW if he wins that WBC/lineal belt. Shouldn't be a problem, he's been 174 fight night. Else he can drop the belt, but that wouldn't be Mexican style

I dont get the point of your post ?

The post you replied to explained why Team Canelo felt entitled enough to campaign in the 150 division..... they are obviously doing the exact same thing in the 155 division, and Canelo can obviously still make 154.

Both Cotto and Canelo are JMW's, there is no question about that.

I have stated my position on numerous occasions.

* Cotto should drop that cheap belt, and fight at 154
* Canelo should be professional and make 154
* Golovkin should keep it real and stop talking shht

But I changed my position today regarding Golovkin.

After seeing this interview.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6_IPGpBlYs

It appears that Golovkin is honest about this situation, and I dont have a problem with that at all. In fact, I dont know why folks knock Golovkin, he doesn't speak great english and there is a cultural difference, but he seems like a great guy..... same with Kovalev, hes actually pretty funny.

It is Golovkins management, and Golovkins fanbase, who are talking utter shht.

My challenge for you, is read the following and DO NOT reply saying "mando doe".

Golovkin will have to chew grass, or kick rocks, if he wants to fight either of those JMW's..... they will just drop the strap man.

I get your point about the mando, truly I do..... it just doesn't matter.

[HeroBando]

I dont get the point of your post ?

The post you replied to explained why Team Canelo felt entitled enough to campaign in the 150 division..... they are obviously doing the exact same thing in the 155 division, and Canelo can obviously still make 154.

Both Cotto and Canelo are JMW's, there is no question about that.

I have stated my position on numerous occasions.

* Cotto should drop that cheap belt, and fight at 154
* Canelo should be professional and make 154
* Golovkin should keep it real and stop talking shht

But I changed my position today regarding Golovkin.

After seeing this interview.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6_IPGpBlYs

It appears that Golovkin is honest about this situation, and I dont have a problem with that at all. In fact, I dont know why folks knock Golovkin, he doesn't speak great english and there is a cultural difference, but he seems like a great guy..... same with Kovalev, hes actually pretty funny.

It is Golovkins management, and Golovkins fanbase, who are talking utter shht.

My challenge for you, is read the following and DO NOT reply saying "mando doe".

Golovkin will have to chew grass, or kick rocks, if he wants to fight either of those JMW's..... they will just drop the strap man.

I get your point about the mando, truly I do..... it just doesn't matter.

The point is, just like he outgrew 150, he's outgrowing 155 duh. Putting on 20lbs overnight can't last. He's a MW whether he wants it or not and dropping that belt to avoid Ggg wouldn't be very Mexican.

Cotto isnt a legit MW so should have dropped that belt long ago. But unlike you he knows boxing, and uses that belt for max money and leverage

[kafkod]

Right, so the following comment is correct regarding Golovkin.....

I see the problem with you now. You are not capable of holding more than one fact or factor in your head at the same time.

Again, you have picked just ONE point out of my post, and ignored the rest, including the part which was actually the main point of my comment.

I'll try again ... you don't ask for a catchweight when you are the B side, trying to make a fight with A side fighters like Froch and Chavez Jr.

You do ask for a catchweight when a bigger guy, who is not an A side fighter, in terms of fans and money, is trying to make a fight with you.

Get it now?

This the same reason why Floyd fought Oscar and Cotto at 154, but made Canelo come down to 152.

He couldn't dictate to Cotto and Oscar, but he could dictate to Canelo. So he did.

Does that make Floyd a coward, with no honour?

[kafkod]

Ward's last fight was at 172lbs, you ****** ****.

Yes, I know it was a catchweight, but it was a catchweight within the LHW division.

If you fight at a CW within the LHW division, you are fighting as a LHW, ffs.

And nothing you could ever say or do is going to make me cry, son, so don't go worrying yourself about that.

Cotto weighed 153lb last time out.

Well, what weight-range does that fall under, you spastic ?

Oh..... it seems that your ignorant "weight-range doe" perspective no longer favors your girlfriend..... so I guess you will have to fall back on "but he got da MW belt doe"..... right?

#getaclue

Huh?

Why do you think that Cotto weighing 153 last time out means that 172 is not within the LHW division?

[Beater_of_ass]

Cmon dude we know all the names you mentioned are MWs...even Canelo fights IN the MW Division just against JMWs..i dont understand the objection and why Cotto cant face GGG, they both fight at MW so why not, right? As for Ward, hes only brought up whenever a CottoGGG fight is talked about...i wonder why that is? Maybe a certain fanbase likes to hide behind Andre Ward? Wards a great fighter, we all know that but hes at SMW and if he cant make 160 he shouldnt be trying to get in the mix at MW.

So it's okay for GGG to duck Ward because he's a SMW is your excuse. I would say that's excuseable except they called out the entire SMW division and accepted 2 fights at 168 already.

Secondly, as I already stated Cotto was already set to fight Canelo... so Cotto's reaction, considering it was 3 fights away with GGG makes a lot of sense. Cotto beat Geale, is fighting Canelo and yet you guys give him **** because he said yes to fighting GGG after that if it made him the most money....

What are you complaining about? Cotto said he'd fight him when the money was right, GGG won't even entertain Ward. Yet, we'll complain about Cotto because he's fighting someone people want him to fight. FFS, it makes no sense. But hey it's Cotto's 4th weightclass, GGG's first but it's okay to be scared of a guy just because he's a division above you, pathetic.

[aboutfkntime]

The point is, just like he outgrew 150, he's outgrowing 155 duh. Putting on 20lbs overnight can't last. He's a MW whether he wants it or not and dropping that belt to avoid Ggg wouldn't be very Mexican.

Cotto isnt a legit MW so should have dropped that belt long ago. But unlike you he knows boxing, and uses that belt for max money and leverage

The bold is ******ed fanboy bullshht.

You, insisting that Canelo is a MW, despite the fact that.....
1) he is obviously a JMW
2) he has consistantly weighed 155, which is only 1lb over
3) his team have stated that he is a JMW
4) he campaigns at JMW

Only on boxingscene are posters clever enough to tell fighters where they should be campaigning, the fighters used to make those decisions themselves

And let me guess, Ward should be fighting at LHW, right ?

Now, where are we going to put Lara ?

He campaigns at 154, but will fight Golovkin at 160, what can we do?

Can we move him to SMW, and say hes too big?..... oh fcuk , thats not gonna work, because of the Froch/Chavez offers.

Tell you what, we could move him down to welter, how does that sound ?

Yep, 147 would be nice and safe, and away from Gennady.

It is official, Lara..... you are now a welter

[aboutfkntime]

I see the problem with you now. You are not capable of holding more than one fact or factor in your head at the same time.

Again, you have picked just ONE point out of my post, and ignored the rest, including the part which was actually the main point of my comment.

I'll try again ... you don't ask for a catchweight when you are the B side, trying to make a fight with A side fighters like Froch and Chavez Jr.

You do ask for a catchweight when a bigger guy, who is not an A side fighter, in terms of fans and money, is trying to make a fight with you.

Get it now?

This the same reason why Floyd fought Oscar and Cotto at 154, but made Canelo come down to 152.

He couldn't dictate to Cotto and Oscar, but he could dictate to Canelo. So he did.

Does that make Floyd a coward, with no honour?

Nah, that is just bullshht.

I've never read that stuff anywhere, you just made that shht up.

You made that shht up, to give your boy an excuse to duck Ward.

Real fighters want to fight the best, they dont make silly excuses.

And when he moves to LHW, if my boy Ward tries to catchweight Kovalev, I will say the exact same thing about him.

I will not have to make childish excuses to protect him.

Here, GGG admits that Ward is too much for him, and he is not ready.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6_IPGpBlYs

It is only you fanboys and Golovkins management who are making silly childish excuses. The 164 demand is a flat-out duck, and you know it.

[aboutfkntime]

Huh?

Why do you think that Cotto weighing 153 last time out means that 172 is not within the LHW division?

You were ****** enough to say that Wards' comeback fight at 172 was a LHW contest, despite the fact that.....
* both participants were SMW's
* Team Ward stated that Andre can make 168, and will fight at SMW
* he is 31yo, and coming off an 18-month layoff
* he will work his way back down, like many fighters have done
* the fight took place under the LHW divisional limit, so at best is a catchweight fight

You need to learn the sport, all that stuff is really obvious.

You made that silly statement based on the latest ignorant, incorrect, fanboy, perception..... that a fighter weighing anything within a particular divisional limit, suddenly represents that division.h

Like stating that the Garcia/Peterson fight was at welter, because it was 1lb over..... or that Canelo is a MW for coming in 1lb over..... simply ******ed fanboy logic..... and all to protect your latest girlfriend.

That is embarrasing ******ity.

And how does that template apply to Cotto, who weighs 153lb, and is clearly a JMW?

You say that when a fighter makes weight, he represents whatever division that weight falls between..... well, Cotto is clearly a JMW.

I guess that fcuks your Cotto agenda.

I am glad that I dont have to make myself look ****** by saying such things.

[aboutfkntime]

HeroBando and kaykod are so badly in love with Golovkin that they want to rearrange the boxing landscape to suit him......

The 2x JMW's Cotto and Canelo..... are now MW's.

And the SMW Ward..... is now a light heavy.

But they dont know what to do with Lara ?