Comments Thread For: Adonis Stevenson: Duva Used Me To Get New HBO Deal!

[HeroBando]

Karpency beat Chad Dawson, and Mohammedi was KO'd by Dmitry Sukhotsky in 2 rounds. Sukhotsky is the dude Stevenson knocked in round 5th round in december 2014. Just do the math

Karpency was also shut out by Cleverly, do the math. Kovalev has fought some bums and some good fighters recently, but with Stevenson it's all bums.

[TheThirdEye]

Stevenson's explanation makes no sense. I know most boxers are not very smart but damn.

You're easily blinded by the media's, you're naive, and you're only good to follow the direction of the mass.

[Scipio2009]

You guys surprise me.

Stevenson says Duva used him to get an HBO contract, then ducked him?

How would that even work?

Duva comes to HBO and says, here's Stevenson, we want to fight him and will fight him, even though that fight won't come to HBO as Al Haymon and HBO don't get along. HBO say, that's great, here's the contract. Then Duva says oops, won't fight Stevenson. Leaving both HBO and Stevenson conned?

Stevenson's name didn't help Duva get HBO contract. Now BHop's titles, that's another matter. Stevenson and his manager gave Duva a gift when they messed BHop around so he got fed up and made the fight with Duva in 2 days. If Kovalev had 1 title and Stevenson had 3, Duva would think twice about signing with HBO.

Besides, don't forget, Stevenson has no contract with Showtime. He has a contract with Al Haymon. Stevenson (in theory) is free to fight on HBO.

The party that needs to be put pressure on here is HBO. They should bankroll Duva's bid for the purse bid. And if they lose they should let Haymon run the fight. Kovalev is likely to win it and come back to their network as the only unified champ in boxing. They should take a risk.

Simple:

"Hey HBO, the WBC made the unprecedented step of naming WBO/WBA/IBF champion as their mandatory challenger. And Yvon Michel, seeing that negotiations would be tough, called for an earlier purse bid. I don't know what their bid is going to be, but Michel fancies the fight, and Haymon has a big pile of money to work with.

I can't get Klimas and Kovalev to move away from the purse for that fight unless I can take something else back to them. I can sell them on the value of a longterm deal."

Stevenson has a relationship with Showtime, and Showtime valued Stevenson more than HBO even fathomed valuing Stevenson. On top of that, Stevenson has his Quebec market to draw from.

It's HBO vs Showtime/CBS, and HBO is unwilling to compete. If Showtime wants the fight, why is Duva doing everything in her power to block the fight?

[HeroBando]

Simple:

"Hey HBO, the WBC made the unprecedented step of naming WBO/WBA/IBF champion as their mandatory challenger. And Yvon Michel, seeing that negotiations would be tough, called for an earlier purse bid. I don't know what their bid is going to be, but Michel fancies the fight, and Haymon has a big pile of money to work with.

I can't get Klimas and Kovalev to move away from the purse for that fight unless I can take something else back to them. I can sell them on the value of a longterm deal."

Stevenson has a relationship with Showtime, and Showtime valued Stevenson more than HBO even fathomed valuing Stevenson. On top of that, Stevenson has his Quebec market to draw from.

It's HBO vs Showtime/CBS, and HBO is unwilling to compete. If Showtime wants the fight, why is Duva doing everything in her power to block the fight?

They value him so much his next fight is on Spike TV lol. Don't blame them, his first SHO fight did weak ratings, 50% lower than previous, and his last SHO bout did laughable ratings, FNF numbers

[TheThirdEye]

Karpency was also shut out by Cleverly, do the math. Kovalev has fought some bums and some good fighters recently, but with Stevenson it's all bums.

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[Travycat]

Hi I'm 37 and people are using me/ducking me. I swear it's true! Set up a fight for me and I'll show you! -- No, not that one! But another one!

[HeroBando]

I love this:

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Not really, those are the bums. But he also fought Hopkins and Pascal. And Cleverly, who shut out Stevenson's last opponent. Funny thing is, Stevenson had an inside track on Hopkins and Pascal, he just rather face bums for less money

[observer]

Simple:

"Hey HBO, the WBC made the unprecedented step of naming WBO/WBA/IBF champion as their mandatory challenger. And Yvon Michel, seeing that negotiations would be tough, called for an earlier purse bid. I don't know what their bid is going to be, but Michel fancies the fight, and Haymon has a big pile of money to work with.

I can't get Klimas and Kovalev to move away from the purse for that fight unless I can take something else back to them. I can sell them on the value of a longterm deal."

Stevenson has a relationship with Showtime, and Showtime valued Stevenson more than HBO even fathomed valuing Stevenson. On top of that, Stevenson has his Quebec market to draw from.

It's HBO vs Showtime/CBS, and HBO is unwilling to compete. If Showtime wants the fight, why is Duva doing everything in her power to block the fight?

Thank you. This actually makes sense. When you read what Stevenson says it sounds as if Duva got the HBO contract by promising to deliver Kovalev-Stevenson. While he means that she signed the contract to avoid that fight, and HBO were OK with it.

Oh well, maybe they work it out somehow. Stevenson's career is going down the drain and he'll get knocked out soon enough, I'd rather see Kovalev take him down in a big fight.

[i'm a fun haver]

Stevenson ran away and didn't even fight BHop or Pascal(like people said he would).
Kovalev got both of Stevenson's "big fights"

[Scipio2009]

Thing is, they were pretty invested in that fight. They shouldn't bid against Haymon, they got a limited budget they should use wisely. Stevenson is welcome to fight Kovalev on HBO for career best money and exposure. And it's not just that, it would really boost his flagging appeal and standing, would have long term benefits. If he won of course. Nobody cares about him now, even in Canada.

HBO isn't career best money for Stevenson.

Which is the issue here.

To air the fight on PPV in Canada, Stevenson-Kovalev would've had to be on, from the Haymon-affiliated channels, on Showtime or SpikeTV[PBC] (NBCSN would also work, but the reach of the channel and the scale of the fight are mismatched; ESPN/NBC/CBS/etc all have regular TV partners in Canada).

The PBC shows so far, generally speaking, have allocated ~$2m in payouts to their SpikeTV cards, and Showtime has proven themselves willing to put $3m in payouts behind airing Wilder's fights. Not sure how much higher Haymon is willing to go for a SpikeTV PBC broadcast, but I don't doubt Showtime being willing to go to $3m for Stevenson-Kovalev, maybe even $3.5m at the uttermost (depending on how seriously they value the fight).

I don't think that HBO values a Stevenson-Kovalev fight at even $2m, let alone the cost of likely securing the US broadcast rights to the fight on the open market.

keep ignoring the reality of the situation if you want; HBO isn't the only platform interested in airing fights, and HBO is no longer the only platform with the budget to pay out for the big showdowns.