Comments Thread For: Lomachenko Baits Rigondeaux To Step Up, Fight

[jai mari078]

I support Rigo, but agree with Loma.....

I am a genuine boxing fan, so do not have convenient adjustable standards.

Catchweights suck ass !

I have mixed views about rehydration clauses.

Even if you were able to convince me that rehydration clauses were acceptable..... you would never be able to convince me that a rehydration clause is anything more than a sellotape-fix.

The system should accomodate ALL, without the need for change.

I think I would prefer same-day weighin rather than rehydration clauses.

We can all see how catchweights are being abused, lets not add another variable to the equation..... the standards within boxing are low enough as it is.

Rigo, either step up into Loma's world, or stay at 122 and break hearts.

Either is fine.

ABSOLUTELY!!!!! GOOD POST!!!!! It makes me sick these days that boxing fans are letting catch weights become the norm and are becoming more and more acceptable.

I HATE catch weights!!!!! If you're not willing to fight at the weight class weight you should not be allowed to fight for that title or be awarded it.

This catch weight **** needs to stop. I understand in some instances it has always been in boxing, but it is becoming the rule instead of the exception and it need to stop!!!!!!

[aboutfkntime]

but nobody says loma is that damn good. After Salido loss people started calling him a bum and now Rigo ( who was considered as good as Mayweather and Ward) is afraid to fight a guy who was beat by Salido? its funny

Jesus there are some dumb fcuks around.

Not you bro, just the bold comment.

The bum, was Bob Arum.

I have been around this sport a fkn long time, but not as long as that dinosaur.

Arum made an AMATEUR mistake, and he paid for it.

Dont blame Loma, or Salido.

Everyone knows that pro/amateur are different sports completely..... everyone should know the main hurdles that a fighter will face after turning professional.

You DONT throw a kid in with a hardened vet who is on top of his game.

They looked at Salidos record, looked at Lomas amateur record, and said lets go for it, this will make headlines.

NOOBS !

They broke the oldest rule in the book, and they paid for it.

Loma is a cracker, and he fought really well in that fight.

[Loque-san]

Top Rank wouldn't be in a hurry to make this fight happen if Rigondeaux was a natural featherweight - let alone bigger than Lomachenko. They know Lomachenko is the much bigger fighter. It's a Craword-Gamboa situation.

[aboutfkntime]

If Rigo wants the fight he comes in at 126. It's SAD that boxing fans feel catch weights are acceptable.

Where else is Rigo gonna go to get a named fighter and that payday. NO WHERE that's where. He can continue to fight on undercards or sit on the sideline and complain

Yep, good call !

[Mr.Fantastic]

I support Rigo, but agree with Loma.....

I am a genuine boxing fan, so do not have convenient adjustable standards.

Catchweights suck ass !

I have mixed views about rehydration clauses.

Even if you were able to convince me that rehydration clauses were acceptable..... you would never be able to convince me that a rehydration clause is anything more than a sellotape-fix.

The system should accomodate ALL, without the need for change.

I think I would prefer same-day weighin rather than rehydration clauses.

We can all see how catchweights are being abused, lets not add another variable to the equation..... the standards within boxing are low enough as it is.

Rigo, either step up into Loma's world, or stay at 122 and break hearts.

Either is fine.

Great Post!!!

[aboutfkntime]

your a moron donaire is a good fighter Pacquiao is an all time great fighter don't ever compare the two.no need for false accusations.

Read that entire post again !

The discussion is about weight-gain, not about who ranks higher.

Your dumb post doesn't even make sense.

[PittyPat]

Boxing simply doesn't work like that.

Many great fighters have only campaigned in 1-2 divisions.

Dont you remember the problems that Donaire had when he first moved up from bantam?

Words to this effect.....
" I just cant hold the weight, that 4lb's is too much ".

And that was after extensive s&c training.

Donaire proved how extraordinary Pacs rise through the weights was.

" eye-opening ", is actually a better term for Pacs weight gain.

Reminder: Donaire undertakes year round testing.

It comes down to body-type/metabolism, and has nothing to do with how good you are...... top fighters can bridge the gap, sure..... but its not just a case of move up and dominate.

Boxing has weight divisions for a reason.

Except... Rigo soundly beat Donaire, and they are built completely differently. Donaire has never had the razor-cut physique of Rigo, and he's been on the slide ever since his 4-fight 2012 campaign. Rigo, having done everything at 122 (besides Frampton, Quigg and Pantycruz not fighting him), has pretty much stagnated. Neither have done much since meeting each other in their 122 showdown, but at least Donaire made a real effort to test the waters at 126 with mixed success.

If Rigo wants to move his career forward, there's only one thing to do - challenge himself at 126 to be even greater. I feel the need to highlight the word "challenge" for a reason. Yes, he has competed mainly at 122. He's an amateur ATG. But how about continuing some of that greatness into the pro ranks?

[M Bison]

500k doesn't seem like that much for Loma v Rigo.

I wonder if a Top Rank guy has access to Lomachenko's twitter account and is tweeting on his behalf.

Ukraine Vs Cuba isn't exactly what sells to the public, just being honest.
IF you enjoyed the Floyd Vs Manny fight maybe this would be the fight for you but those fans aren't in the strong numbers.

[aboutfkntime]

Except... Rigo soundly beat Donaire, and they are built completely differently. Donaire has never had the razor-cut physique of Rigo, and he's been on the slide ever since his 4-fight 2012 campaign. Rigo, having done everything at 122 (besides Frampton, Quigg and Pantycruz not fighting him), has pretty much stagnated. Neither have done much since meeting each other in their 122 showdown, but at least Donaire made a real effort to test the waters at 126 with mixed success.

If Rigo wants to move his career forward, there's only one thing to do - challenge himself at 126 to be even greater. I feel the need to highlight the word "challenge" for a reason. Yes, he has competed mainly at 122. He's an amateur ATG. But how about continuing some of that greatness into the pro ranks?

Some great points right there, cant really argue with that post.....

But weight gain is individual, there are no precedents.

You cant look at one fighter and say, well he did it so why cant you.

Body-type/metabolism are individual traits with no rhyme or reason.

Also, Donaire " tested the waters at 126 " after losing at 122.

Rigo likely will fight at 126 eventually.

[IR0NFIST]

Lomachenko's refusal to even compromise on any aspect of the weight shows that he expects Rigondeaux to deal with the same kind of weight disadvantage that some fans would use as justification for turning down Walters (a fight which BTW would still be on the table and would be easier to make logistically). This comes off as hypocritical, particularly since it was Loma's camp that initiated the talk of taking on the smaller Rigo.