Comments Thread For: Team GGG: Ward Not The A-Side, Can't Dictate Terms

[GMAN SUPREME]

Marquez is not a welter..... just as Dawson was not a SMW.

Why cant you keep it real ?

When Ward beat Froch, Carl was a genuine SMW who was on top of his game..... when Bradley beat Marquez, JMM was old, was campaigning out of his weight-class, and had obviously started to slip.

Ward completely dominated Froch in his prime.

Knocking pac the fcuk out, did not make Marquez a welter.

bull**** excuses for marquez.bradley is just too fast and skilled for any version of marquez.marquez looked pretty good against alverado after he lost to bradley so their goes your age excuse.

[aboutfkntime]

So how do you feel about Floyd's win over JMM?

math, you will never catch me flip-flopping..... EVER !

I put the sport first bro, always have, so I will never be caught out.

The same as the current Loma/Rigo thread......
Rigo is my boy, but I hold him to the same standard I hold everyone else.

I dont make excuses for my guy, I dont understand why that is required.

Also, I am a bigger fan of Marquez than I am of Mayweather

[Scipio2009]

Since you have only have assumptions, assume this

GGG easily makes 160, Andrea has problems making 172 let alone 168. Given the fact that Andrea has a lot larger build, it is likely that he walks around 15 to 20 pounds heavier.

There is no doubt in my mind that Andrea is poor draw. Given all historical facts, he was not big draw in his peak of popularity neither (comparing with contemporary fighters in lower categories - Mayweather, Pac, Cotto, Canelo, Chavez Jr ). There is no way he can draw $700K gate as A side boxer.

All the rest is just your imagination since you have no valid sources

-Ward was 173.5 with three weeks to go to the Paul Smith fight; where is this "struggle" that you speak of? https://instagram.com/p/3ecZn8B7A4/

-Apparently, the Ward-Dawson gate was actually $706k. http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=561832

Anything else to say?

[Scipio2009]

Anyone who turns down a massive fight with Froch just because of the venue is the real coward, that's like turning down a Mayweather fight because you expect him to agree to all your terms.
Ward wishes he was like Froch but he knows he wont reach that level, I'll carry on boycotting all of his fights until he actually fights someone with a pulse.

.... Ward beat Froch, pretty comfortably mind you, yet Ward's refusal to fight Froch in his literal hometown is supposed to be some indictment against Andre Ward. Are you serious?

[aboutfkntime]

bull**** excuses for marquez.bradley is just too fast and skilled for any version of marquez.marquez looked pretty good against alverado after he lost to bradley so their goes your age excuse.

FACT: Marquez > Bradley

/discussion

Marquez was a first ballot hall-of-famer, long before he fought Bradley.

Are you somehow under the impression that conversation was about who happened to be the better fighter?

You leap without looking my friend.

The discussion was about Ward/Bradley, and which win was best.

Froch for Ward, or Marquez for Bradley.

Bradley is better at welter than Marquez..... also, Marquez is ooooold !

[Amgwanagitbuti]

T... but GGG/ward gives GGG the quality opponent he and his fans complain are never willing to fight GGG. The difference is GGG/Kov fans think Kov can beat Ward where they do not think GGG can, so they argue for ward/kov.

You on it. Team Golovkin is wary of the same thing but use Business-speak to veil their position: the step up in the quality of opponent by fighting Ward would be too much.

[Scipio2009]

wats wrong GGG he's been off nearly 2 years making 168 might actually drain him and you still scared...ward would like take 60/40 at 168..i never heard that offer..
weight can be more important that dollars bc u trying to bring a dead man intot he ring...just like your other 33 fights..

If the weight is 168, I see Team SOG being workable with a 35/65 split, tbh (HBO backing Golovkin, regardless of whom he fights, while not giving Ward that same treatment, shows where they stand with their money).

With Ward able to comfortably do daytime TV, shoot the **** across the ESPN programs, and comfortably handle big city radio (SF/Bay Area and LA markets if the fight is out West; New York radio if the fight is in NYC), Ward-Golovkin has a far firmer claim to being worth PPV than Golovkin-Lemieux, tbh.

[GMAN SUPREME]

FACT: Marquez > Bradley

/discussion

Marquez was a first ballot hall-of-famer, long before he fought Bradley.

Are you somehow under the impression that conversation was about who happened to be the better fighter?

You leap without looking my friend.

The discussion was about Ward/Bradley, and which win was best.

Froch for Ward, or Marquez for Bradley.

Bradley is better at welter than Marquez..... also, Marquez is ooooold !

bradley's win over marquez is better and his resume is better than wards overall. stop trying to discredit bradley's win over marquez by saying he's old.

[Pigeons]

I am disgusted by the cowardly actions of Gennady Golovkin. He has went from up-and-coming star to cowardly b*tch in the matter of months.

Young boxers should look at him as a cautionary tale. You have to fight the best if you want to be taken seriously by real boxing fans. Golovkin has become the butt of every joke. It's a sad downfall.

[twosweethooks]

If you don't think GGG can beat Ward so you don't see the need to make the fight, just say that and be done.

If you don't think GGG and team is not waiting for Ward to make a big money name then why talk about it ?