Which of These Two Fighters do You Have Ranked Higher All-Time RIGHT NOW?

[DreamerUSA]

Marco Antonio Barrera is overrated to pump up Pacquaio's resume

MAB wasn't running to 130 win Freitas, Casamayor, Corrales was there and if they were he'd have got his asss whooped






top 5 p4p by a publication....p4p is make believe its all opinion based


How Many 29 year olds you know that are in their prime after 60 fights???
and wars with the likes of Kennedy McKinney, Morales, and getting beat up by Poison

After his wins over Hamed and Morales, there is a huge fall off in his competition

That losses to Junior Jones was in his prime



MAB is a great fighter for his era and definitely a hall of famer....its hard to call him an all time great based off the way he has losses to all his best opponents.....Junior Jones, Pacquaio and Morales

and his best wins are washed up kevin Kelly, Johnny Tapia and undersized Paulie Ayala



HBO and haters of Hamed jumped on the MAB express because someone finally beat the Prince....looking over his resume its good, but definitely not spectacular and being an avid boxing fan and seeing a lot of his fights, he is not on the level of a Roy Jones, Hopkins and Mayweather

This is exactly the crap I talk about. Its like a circle jerk around here. I can say Chico was drained, Marquez was a blown up lightweight, Hatton was to small for welterweight, and Manny was "injured". I grow so tired of everyone discrediting almost everything any fighter ever did when it does'nt fit their narrative. Somehow in your universe you reduced the man's career down to Kelly, Tapia and Ayala. And in the same stroke reduced Manny's win over him to a past prime guy who never really beat anyone worth making him a p4p fighter.



You fail to mention Hamed and the fact that he beat Morales 2 out of 3 as his best wins. Also as far as his prime goes, the fact he beat Morales a year after he lost to Manny tells me he was in his prime, probably on the backside of it, but none the less his prime. If you want an example of a 28 year old washed up fighter, look at Chico. The number of fights and wars you have does'nt matter. How your body takes it does. You can be washed up after 35 fights or maybe 100 fights. Using a guys age and the number of fights he has as a gauge to if he is in his prime or not is silly.

[therealpugilist]

This is exactly the crap I talk about. Its like a circle jerk around here. I can say Chico was drained, Marquez was a blown up lightweight, Hatton was to small for welterweight, and Manny was "injured". I grow so tired of everyone discrediting almost everything any fighter ever did when it does'nt fit their narrative. Somehow in your universe you reduced the man's career down to Kelly, Tapia and Ayala. And in the same stroke reduced Manny's win over him to a past prime guy who never really beat anyone worth making him a p4p fighter.



You fail to mention Hamed and the fact that he beat Morales 2 out of 3 as his best wins. Also as far as his prime goes, the fact he beat Morales a year after he lost to Manny tells me he was in his prime, probably on the backside of it, but none the less his prime. If you want an example of a 28 year old washed up fighter, look at Chico. The number of fights and wars you have does'nt matter. How your body takes it does. You can be washed up after 35 fights or maybe 100 fights. Using a guys age and the number of fights he has as a gauge to if he is in his prime or not is silly.

so im guessing you overlooked the part when I said Barrera had 60 fights man....he wasn't in his prime bro....go watch him in the late 90s and watch him from 03...he couldn't keep up the pace and wasn't willing to give what he was willing to in the past and also had wars....face it bro he wasn't prime...I actually followed boxing then...he was in his prime around the first fight with Morales and around the time he beat McKinney not in 03

Yea and I can say, you have sour g****s and the best man won


Excuses, Excuses....you don't have to be a genius to crap on someone's resume and put excuses on each win


I find it funny that Corrales never complained about being weight drained after the fight and he also fought at 130 again after his comeback so that kills the idea of how hard it was the make 130 for Chico when he had 2 high profile fights with Casamayor there genius



Floyds a welterweight, people want him to fight GGG right....that's 2 weight classes.....whats the difference with him fighting Marquez when he himself has fought guys with 15+ pounds on him and has fought across 5 weight classes.....Marquez was chasing greatness unlike Mr. Drug test cut off date Pacquaio

You sound plain ******...Hatton turned pro at 140 and weighed more between fights, was the thicker fighter


Maywetaher turned pro at 130 and only had 6 fights above 135 when he fought hatton who fought his whole career at 140 and up...excuse debunked



Do you think Kelly was in his prime? Was Ayala ever a full fledged feather...no...he was a champion at 118 and 122 and moved up only for big pay days vs Morales and Barrera

Johnny Tapia was like 35 when they fought with 50+ fights man....be for real

[R-C]

Oscar De La Hoya is the man, without him, Money and Manny would never be this famous and relevant.

But, to answer to poll, Money is better.

[daggum]

pac has the better resume, took on more challenges, didn't use illegal tactics or get caught cheating, and should have beat floyd head to head since he landed the much cleaner punches. so i'm going with eric crumble

[DreamerUSA]

so im guessing you overlooked the part when I said Barrera had 60 fights man....he wasn't in his prime bro....go watch him in the late 90s and watch him from 03...he couldn't keep up the pace and wasn't willing to give what he was willing to in the past and also had wars....face it bro he wasn't prime...I actually followed boxing then...he was in his prime around the first fight with Morales and around the time he beat McKinney not in 03

Yea and I can say, you have sour g****s and the best man won


Excuses, Excuses....you don't have to be a genius to crap on someone's resume and put excuses on each win


I find it funny that Corrales never complained about being weight drained after the fight and he also fought at 130 again after his comeback so that kills the idea of how hard it was the make 130 for Chico when he had 2 high profile fights with Casamayor there genius



Floyds a welterweight, people want him to fight GGG right....that's 2 weight classes.....whats the difference with him fighting Marquez when he himself has fought guys with 15+ pounds on him and has fought across 5 weight classes.....Marquez was chasing greatness unlike Mr. Drug test cut off date Pacquaio

You sound plain ******...Hatton turned pro at 140 and weighed more between fights, was the thicker fighter


Maywetaher turned pro at 130 and only had 6 fights above 135 when he fought hatton who fought his whole career at 140 and up...excuse debunked



Do you think Kelly was in his prime? Was Ayala ever a full fledged feather...no...he was a champion at 118 and 122 and moved up only for big pay days vs Morales and Barrera

Johnny Tapia was like 35 when they fought with 50+ fights man....be for real

Wow flew right over your head. Sour g****s lol. You can go back and look at my posts and see I picked Mayweather to win, I was pulling for Manny, but thought Mayweather would win. I'm also on record here stating that if Floyd beat Manny, I got no problems with him being ranked in the top 10 as an ATG, and I stand by that. Not to mention I voted for him in this poll. Anyways thanks for proving my point though.

Again "bro", a past prime Barrera does'nt beat a prime Morales. The way he fought changed after his losses to Jones, which is a testimate to how good he was, not some lame ass excuse to claim he was past his prime, to diminish Manny's win. Jesus Christ, given your track record you would be quick to suck off MAB's resume if Floyd had beat him.

Also please remove yourself from your high horse like you were the only mother****er watching boxing a whopping 15 years ago. I've been a fan since the early 80s.

[The Big Dunn]

This poll was made 6 months after Floyd beat Manny. Given his loss to Floyd and his other losses, anyone that voted for Manny contributes to the loss of credibility of this site.

Its like asking who is better Manny or Bradley and voting Bradley.

I get a lot of guys hate Floyd and do not like that he won. That dislike, hate, jealousy, disgust, contempt etc shouldn't be to such a degree that posters compromise your own integrity as a boxing fan.

[therealpugilist]

Wow flew right over your head. Sour g****s lol. You can go back and look at my posts and see I picked Mayweather to win, I was pulling for Manny, but thought Mayweather would win. I'm also on record here stating that if Floyd beat Manny, I got no problems with him being ranked in the top 10 as an ATG, and I stand by that. Not to mention I voted for him in this poll. Anyways thanks for proving my point though.

Again "bro", a past prime Barrera does'nt beat a prime Morales. The way he fought changed after his losses to Jones, which is a testimate to how good he was, not some lame ass excuse to claim he was past his prime, to diminish Manny's win. Jesus Christ, given your track record you would be quick to suck off MAB's resume if Floyd had beat him.

Also please remove yourself from your high horse like you were the only mother****er watching boxing a whopping 15 years ago. I've been a fan since the early 80s.

I know I wasn't, but you were not

[Doctor_Tenma]

This poll was made 6 months after Floyd beat Manny. Given his loss to Floyd and his other losses, anyone that voted for Manny contributes to the loss of credibility of this site.

Its like asking who is better Manny or Bradley and voting Bradley.

I get a lot of guys hate Floyd and do not like that he won. That dislike, hate, jealousy, disgust, contempt etc shouldn't be to such a degree that posters compromise your own integrity as a boxing fan.

Couldn't have said it better, too many fanboys on here.

[b00g13man]

This poll was made 6 months after Floyd beat Manny. Given his loss to Floyd and his other losses, anyone that voted for Manny contributes to the loss of credibility of this site.

Its like asking who is better Manny or Bradley and voting Bradley.

I get a lot of guys hate Floyd and do not like that he won. That dislike, hate, jealousy, disgust, contempt etc shouldn't be to such a degree that posters compromise your own integrity as a boxing fan.

Take a look at the posters that voted for Manny. It's mainly a bunch of clowns. I've got about 80-90% of them on ignore.

[daggum]

This poll was made 6 months after Floyd beat Manny. Given his loss to Floyd and his other losses, anyone that voted for Manny contributes to the loss of credibility of this site.

Its like asking who is better Manny or Bradley and voting Bradley.

I get a lot of guys hate Floyd and do not like that he won. That dislike, hate, jealousy, disgust, contempt etc shouldn't be to such a degree that posters compromise your own integrity as a boxing fan.

a decent minority of people think pac beat floyd since he was the one landing cleanly. why would they vote for floyd because the judges were poor? would you have voted for pac if he had got the official decision even though i'm sure you would still think floyd won right? a fanboy is someone who continually brings up compubox numbers to try and prove his guy won a fight when he knows damn well those numbers are trash. sure maybe you thought floyd won but provide some good evidence not inaccurate data or vague platitudes about how he outboxed pac and controlled a fight in which he was beating hit cleanly and his punches were not landing cleanly. you think floyd won and is better. cool. some people think manny won and is better. its not like they are saying eric crumble is better...errr well i did