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Which of These Two Fighters do You Have Ranked Higher All-Time RIGHT NOW?
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Originally posted by soul_survivor View PostYou have completely ignored everything I have said. I listed 4 criteria btw.
In ring performance
Achievements
Dominance
Main stream
Lewis trumps Tyson in 3 of the 4. If you think he doesn't then I don't care.
Take some english lesson.
My point is there is more to greatness than the criteria you listed.
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Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View PostNo Lewis does not. You're using a separate standard for Lewis/Tyson than you are using for Mayweather/Pacquiao. Tyson was considered more accomplished as a pro, was considered far more exciting, and was more popular to the mainstream. Tyson actually trumps Lewis in three out of the four categories you listed. Which is why Tyson is far more popular than Lewis But Tyson is still not greater than Lewis.
My point is there is more to greatness than the criteria you listed.
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Originally posted by Red Cyclone View PostTrolling under ALTs make these little kiddies feel superior.
And don't ever disrespect the resume of Marciano, his win over Louis is better than anything on Pac or Floyds resume. Even if Floyd beats a 50th fighter and retires, his resume pales in comparison to Rockys.
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Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View PostNo Lewis does not. You're using a separate standard for Lewis/Tyson than you are using for Mayweather/Pacquiao. Tyson was considered more accomplished as a pro, was considered far more exciting, and was more popular to the mainstream. Tyson actually trumps Lewis in three out of the four categories you listed. Which is why Tyson is far more popular than Lewis But Tyson is still not greater than Lewis.
My point is there is more to greatness than the criteria you listed.
Tyson is greater IMO and more accomplished, most of his big wins are over guys in their prime besides Larry Holmes
Lewis biggest wins are over visibly washed up Tyson and Holyfield
Both had their upsets but Buster Douglass was also a better fighter than the guys Lennox lost to......Douglass actually beat Oliver McCall, Greg Page and Trevor Berbick even though all people remember is him upsetting Tyson and getting blitzed by Holyfield
Hasim Rahman lost every big fight he had outside oF HIS FIRST FIGHT with Lewis
after those two wins his record falls off outside of Klitschko
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Originally posted by LoadedWraps View PostIt's pathetic. He should change it back to Dempseyrollin.
And don't ever disrespect the resume of Marciano, his win over Louis is better than anything on Pac or Floyds resume. Even if Floyd beats a 50th fighter and retires, his resume pales in comparison to Rockys.
Marciano has to be one of the most overrated Heavyweight champions ever and his resume is Hot Gawbage for all the hoopla...no one in their right mind thinks his resume is one of the best in hos own division, let alone the other guys....Look at who Tyson, Ali, Holmes, Louis....even Wlad Klitschko has a better resume....beat more world ranked opposition...Rockys best wins are over middle aged men and Ezzard Charles was like 100+ fights in and started at 160 as a pro
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View PostTyson is greater IMO and more accomplished, most of his big wins are over guys in their prime besides Larry Holmes
Lewis biggest wins are over visibly washed up Tyson and Holyfield
Both had their upsets but Buster Douglass was also a better fighter than the guys Lennox lost to......Douglass actually beat Oliver McCall, Greg Page and Trevor Berbick even though all people remember is him upsetting Tyson and getting blitzed by Holyfield
Hasim Rahman lost every big fight he had outside oF HIS FIRST FIGHT with Lewis
after those two wins his record falls off outside of Klitschko
"Most of his wins are against guys in their primes while the other guys biggest wins were against guys who were washed up."
^^^Sound familiar?Last edited by Johnwoo8686; 08-27-2015, 01:22 PM.
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Originally posted by Johnwoo8686 View PostNo way is Tyson greater. The argument you used to state why Tyson is greater is the same argument Pacquiao fans use to say Manny is greater than Floyd.
"Most of his wins are against guys in their primes while the other guys biggest wins were against guys who were washed up."
^^^Sound familiar?
Tyson beat better overall opposition IMO and he also fought them at better times in their career....just like Floyd did in comparison to Pacquaio
that was my argument on Mayweather and Pacquaio I cant speak for what others said
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