Khan in HOF If he wins a title at 147?

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  • arraamis
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    #31
    Originally posted by English Lion
    He's in the British hall of fame right now. If he wins a title at welterweight, then it still won't be enough for him to be in the world hall of fame. If he unifies the welterweight division and beats a huge name like Pacman on the way to doing it then you could make an argument. Haters would hate on him anyways.

    Out of curiosity and because I was shocked to read your statement, where does it state that Khan is in the BBHOF??

    Here's the official site ...................

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    • English Lion
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      #32
      Originally posted by arraamis
      Out of curiosity and because I was shocked to read your statement, where does it state that Khan is in the BBHOF??

      Here's the official site ...................
      http://www.bbhof.co.uk/nominees/
      I mean that based off his current career alone right now, if he retired, he would be in the British boxing hall of fame.

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        #33
        Originally posted by Eff Pandas
        I suppose it depends on what he does between now & winning that title, but I don't see it. I think his place in history is kinda at that Zab Judah level right now. I suspect he'l end up in that sorta spot by the end of his career.
        Zab Judah was a champion at 140 and the undisputed champion at 147. His legacy is greater than Khan's.

        Originally posted by English Lion
        He's in the British hall of fame right now. If he wins a title at welterweight, then it still won't be enough for him to be in the world hall of fame. If he unifies the welterweight division and beats a huge name like Pacman on the way to doing it then you could make an argument. Haters would hate on him anyways.
        The British hall of fame? He wouldn't even get into that.

        Maybe the British Amateur Hall of Fame.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
          Zab Judah was a champion at 140 and the undisputed champion at 147. His legacy is greater than Khan's.



          The British hall of fame? He wouldn't even get into that.

          Maybe the British Amateur Hall of Fame.
          Why wouldn't Khan get in to the British hall of fame? if John Conteh, Jim Watt, and Lloyd Honeyghan made it, Khan makes it.

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            #35
            Originally posted by English Lion
            Why wouldn't Khan get in to the British hall of fame? if John Conteh, Jim Watt, and Lloyd Honeyghan made it, Khan makes it.
            Based on what?

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              #36
              Originally posted by SlySlickSmooth
              Maybe if he starts getting quality, exciting fights. In his most prestigious fight he got knocked out by Garcia.

              Beating Brook or Thurman for a belt would be good, but one victory isn't enough to get into the HOF. Avenge his defeat to Garcia or Peterson, defend against some top guys.
              I don't really think that was his most prestigious fight, Garcia was a replacement for Peterson and widely expected to lose.

              Originally posted by arraamis
              After 25 years of honoring the best in the sport of boxing, the Hall of Fame***8217;s goal is to maintain the process that bestows boxing***8217;s highest honor to those who have excelled in the ***8216;sweet science,***8217;***8221; said Hall of Fame Executive Director Edward Brophy.



              Both quotes are from the site .... Just a FYI

              I don't know why this site jacks up statements phrased a certain way.
              The mission statement on the site reads as follows:

              Our mission is to honor and preserve boxing's rich heritage, chronicle the achievements of those who excelled and provide an educational experience for our many visitors.
              That's a little different, and reason I bring it up is because everything about the HOF about is very subjective, standards for entry are not clearly defined. There have been articles written on this site about precisely that.

              The only consistent standard I see is that a certain group of people, relatively small in number think a certain fighter merits it, which can often come down to whether those individuals like a certain fighter - and as we know one person's HOFer is another person's bum - Arturo Gatti a case in point (tho not alone). And when you see some of the people who are actually doing the voting...
              Last edited by Weebler I; 08-16-2015, 06:43 PM.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                Based on what?
                Olympic silver medalist at the age of 17 and unifying the light-welterweight division, he has a really high profile and has done a lot for British boxing at grass roots level such as building a boxing academy/gym in Bolton where multiple British champions train. That's enough to give him a place in the British HOF and he's only 28.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Weebler I
                  I don't think that was his most prestigious fight, Garcia was a replacement for Peterson and widely expected to lose.



                  The mission statement on the site reads as follows:



                  That's a little different, and reason I bring it up is because everything about the HOF about is very subjective, standards for entry are not clearly defined.

                  The only consistent standard I see is that a certain group of people, relatively small in number, think a certain fighter merits it, which can often come down to whether those individuals like a certain fighter - and as we know one person's HOFer is another person's bum - Arturo Gatti a case in point. And when you see some of the people who are actually doing the voting...
                  I totally agree!

                  One shouldn't have to rely on quotes issued by the E.D. to determine the basis for induction. It's criteria should be clearly and specifically stated so that those visiting the site or the HOF museum, will have a better understanding of how and why certain boxers are there.

                  While certain boxers\inductee's place in the IBHOF is quite clear, others seem to have been gifted the privilege and that causes quite a bit of confusion. Because when ever you start lowering the bar to accommodate situations, you also undermine and lower the standard.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by English Lion
                    Olympic silver medalist at the age of 17 and unifying the light-welterweight division, he has a really high profile and has done a lot for British boxing at grass roots level such as building a boxing academy/gym in Bolton where multiple British champions train. That's enough to give him a place in the British HOF and he's only 28.
                    His professional boxing career is severely lacking.

                    He doesn't belong in the same sentence as the any of the modern greats like Lewis, Calzaghe, Naz etc.

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                    • English Lion
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
                      His professional boxing career is severely lacking.

                      He doesn't belong in the same sentence as the any of the modern greats like Lewis, Calzaghe, Naz etc.
                      I'm not saying he belongs in the same sentence as Lewis or Calzaghe. I'm saying he deserves his place in the British boxing hall of fame. Look at all the other names in there who managed to get in.

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