The mystique of Floyd Mayweather

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"Fighting his type of fight" what does that even mean? LOL.
In the boxing community people have grown accustomed with viewing Mayweather as an undefeated fighter that nobody can touch. And if you say he has lost a few times they look at you like you're an alien from another planet.

If you dont bow down to everything he says, you're a hater. Thats why i said that if you dont beat him within an inch of his life, you're not winning a round against him.

But Mayweather can complain and question the judges decision in other fights, and its not a problem. I've seen him do that a lot of times.

Just recently he said that Ali really lost to Norton and i agree with him. Even my old man dont agree with people saying that Ali is the GOAT. He tells me that a lot of people say that because of what he was able to accomplish outside the ring.

It means he is a Ring General that controls an opponents positioning with range and speed by not allowing the opponent to get set to punch by continually off footing them or forcing them to reach , on top of this Floyd is a master at reading an opponents moves before the opponent tries the move which makes them become more wary to fire as the fight goes on , this is what makes him such a great defensive counter puncher .

And all of this is what forces Floyds opponents to fight Floyds fight and literally shuts them down to the lowest output of their careers , if you bum rush and throw a lot of wild punches at Floyd you will have the highest miss percentage of your career .

When you understand boxing Floyd is truly great at what he does .

[Fearless Angel]

It means he is a Ring General that controls an opponents positioning with range and speed by not allowing the opponent to get set to punch by continually off footing them or forcing them to reach , on top of this Floyd is a master at reading an opponents moves before the opponent tries the move which makes them become more wary to fire as the fight goes on , this is what makes him such a great defensive counter puncher .

And all of this is what forces Floyds opponents to fight Floyds fight and literally shuts them down to the lowest output of their careers , if you bum rush and throw a lot of wild punches at Floyd you will have the highest miss percentage of your career .

When you understand boxing Floyd is truly great at what he does .

Ok, I get that. Floyd is a brilliant boxer, that’s undeniable. One of the smartest boxers of this era. Hopkins is extremely smart inside the ring and he has a few losses.


But to say he wins all the time because “he’s fighting his type of fight”, to me that’s a very vague response. That’s like saying Brandon Rios wins every time “fighting his fight” because all he does is come forward and throw punches.


For example, if Mayweather is doing his thing, moving around the ring, clinching here and there, but he’s landing more punches than his opponent, he clearly wins the round. But, if he’s moving, clinching a lot and only lands a couple of punches, and his opponent lands 10 more punches than him, I can’t give the round to Floyd just because he didn’t took a beating.


Like I said only the three guys I mentioned gave him the most trouble because they forced him to fight at a faster pace, landed a lot of punches (head and body) and made him uncomfortable. He dominated pretty much everyone else.


JMM is one of my favorite fighters of all time and when people say he got robbed against John I agree with them, that was a blatant robbery. But when I hear people say he got robbed against Norwood, I cringe. Probably because they heard all this noise about the Lederman scorecard and whatnot.


To me Norwood clearly won that fight. There's nothing wrong with being honest.

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You bring up very good points. Of course alot of punches Maidana threw didnt count but he won more rounds than he was counted. Thats why even though Im not a hater and like watching Mayweather outclass opponents...The Berto fight is really looking like a mismatch unless virgil hunter has a really smart gameplan or 5 hour energy to give him

[Fearless Angel]

You bring up very good points. Of course alot of punches Maidana threw didnt count but he won more rounds than he was counted. Thats why even though Im not a hater and like watching Mayweather outclass opponents...The Berto fight is really looking like a mismatch unless virgil hunter has a really smart gameplan or 5 hour energy to give him

If a fighter throws a punch and connects clear to the body or head of his opponent, that punch clearly counts. And Maidana landed a lot of those.

Berto and Khan are layups for Mayweather, easy fights for him. But **** if I'm Mayweather and they pay me 30+ million dollars to fight Berto, I would take it.

If Berto pulls the upset and beats Floyd, forget about Tyson vs Douglas, that will be the biggest upset in the history of boxing.

[seanthetaxi]

If you are too lazy/****** to read the thread, or simply uninterested in the thread, then why post in it? GTFO.

I find it interesting how the Floyd fans automatically assume you are hating when in reality it's a fairly nuanced take on his career.

As for the judging, I don't know whether there is direct corruption but there is certainly a great deal of incentive for Vegas judges to award him favorable decisions. It benefits their careers and the city as a whole. Not to claim he has or hasn't been gifted decisions, because I don't consider myself informed enough to comment on that. But it is certainly a possibility given his position.

True. This kind of thread are far too rare in existence and the TS ends up in idiocy for disclosing the intellectual emptiness of the sport that cannot accommodate his views.

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Floyd isn't overated in that he is hard to land punches on. But to be considered a great fighter you need more than that.

He was a better fighter than Corrales, and Gatti, that was clear. But against Pac he wasn't. He lost to Maidana in the first fight and Castillo as well in the first fight.

The Pac fight was close and competitive. Most people believed Floyd to have beat Pac on the night as Pac didn't do what most thought he would, so the feeling was that must mean Floyd won? But replays show FLoyd did jack. Just because you get your opponents output down, don't mean to say you beat them.

And Maidanas punch output was high and this time, the judges just think they can assme Maidanas punches aren't landing. All Floyd has to do is shake his head, and that is a cue for the judges to not score punches land on him. At one point in the Pac vs Floyd fight, Floyd resembled a punch bag, and Pac wasa unloading on his body and face like a heavy bag. Floyd shakes his head as if that didn't hurt me, or even didn't land? If floyd doesn't acknowledge the punches hurting him, or landing on him, the judges also don't?
Somethings not right here.

[Spoon23]

Floyd isn't overated in that he is hard to land punches on. But to be considered a great fighter you need more than that.

He was a better fighter than Corrales, and Gatti, that was clear. But against Pac he wasn't. He lost to Maidana in the first fight and Castillo as well in the first fight.

The Pac fight was close and competitive. Most people believed Floyd to have beat Pac on the night as Pac didn't do what most thought he would, so the feeling was that must mean Floyd won? But replays show FLoyd did jack. Just because you get your opponents output down, don't mean to say you beat them.

And Maidanas punch output was high and this time, the judges just think they can assme Maidanas punches aren't landing. All Floyd has to do is shake his head, and that is a cue for the judges to not score punches land on him. At one point in the Pac vs Floyd fight, Floyd resembled a punch bag, and Pac wasa unloading on his body and face like a heavy bag. Floyd shakes his head as if that didn't hurt me, or those didn't land? If Flooyd doesn't acknowledge the punches landing on him, the judges also don't?
Somethings not right here.

Excellent post.

In other words. Vegas loves Floyd.

[Fearless Angel]

Floyd isn't overated in that he is hard to land punches on. But to be considered a great fighter you need more than that.

He was a better fighter than Corrales, and Gatti, that was clear. But against Pac he wasn't. He lost to Maidana in the first fight and Castillo as well in the first fight.

The Pac fight was close and competitive. Most people believed Floyd to have beat Pac on the night as Pac didn't do what most thought he would, so the feeling was that must mean Floyd won? But replays show FLoyd did jack. Just because you get your opponents output down, don't mean to say you beat them.

And Maidanas punch output was high and this time, the judges just think they can assme Maidanas punches aren't landing. All Floyd has to do is shake his head, and that is a cue for the judges to not score punches land on him. At one point in the Pac vs Floyd fight, Floyd resembled a punch bag, and Pac wasa unloading on his body and face like a heavy bag. Floyd shakes his head as if that didn't hurt me, or even didn't land? If floyd doesn't acknowledge the punches hurting him, or landing on him, the judges also don't?
Somethings not right here.

I dont see it man, I dont think the Pacquiao fight was close at all. Neither of them looked great, but Pacquiao didnt land enough punches in most rounds to make the fight competitve.

If the fight had taken place 5 or 6 years ago I think it would've been more competitive and interesting. Right now Floyd has every advantage. Pacquiao's suerb speed, power and stamina isnt there anymore.

But I dont put all the blame on Floyd for the fight not happening much earlier.

[Fearless Angel]

True. This kind of thread are far too rare in existence and the TS ends up in idiocy for disclosing the intellectual emptiness of the sport that cannot accommodate his views.

People find comfort in what's perceived the "correct" or "popular" opinion in the public's eye. It's like that kid in school that does whatever the other kids tell them to do, so he can fit in the group and look cool in their eyes.

I'm not talking outta my ass when I say Castillo and Maidana won all 4 fights against Floyd. I saw those fights, scored them and to me they won more rounds because they landed more punches than Floyd in the majority of the rounds.

If people dont like my opinion, **** it.