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  • techliam
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    #91
    Originally posted by kiaba360
    It's looking like the lineage will soon be broken, assuming Cotto/Canelo don't defend it against GGG.
    A broken lineage? whats that?

    Theres no mandatories for a lineal title, nor can you be stripped of it unless you retire, move division or lose

    You can win a lineal title, and defend it against 200 unranked bums in your division, and you'd still be the lineal champion

    Its a very flawed system that people only accept at face-value, for reasons unknown to me. Championships, in whatever form, can never truly reflect the best fighter in a division 100% of the time, they are inherently flawed

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    • aboutfkntime
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      #92
      Originally posted by JRB123
      Yeah there are contractual catchweights but my main thing is that anyone can fight for the middleweight title as long as they don't weigh above 160. They can weigh in at 139 and fight for it if they want to...

      What's the word about Ward-Kovalev? Did one of them require the other to be at a specific weight also?
      Sure, just like how it has been since Adam was a cowboy.

      But those other posters are referring to catchweights, fights that have a contractual sanction imposed that restricts the maximum weight limit.

      The difference between a standard divisional contest and a catchweight is very clear and obvious. I cant see the issue here.

      This " confusion " over obvious catchweights seems to be a new brand of excuse-making and ignorance.

      And no, Kovalev/Ward have never entered into negotiation.

      Duva talked to RN, and according to her it will happen in the near future.

      Ward has not negotiated with any other LHW's either.

      Golovkin made offers to Froch/Chavez at 168.

      There is nothing confusing happening here.

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      • StefanTosic
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        #93
        Originally posted by T.M.T
        both these fighters are small jr middleweights neither should ever face GGG. he is struggling to make 160 and needs to take his a ss up to 168 and stop ducking andre ward.
        STFU! You stans are bigging up Berto and justifying Floyd's choice of the next opponent, while playing down and degrading a beast like Golovkin. Reading to your comments makes me feel as if you guys think Berto and GGG are on the same level. Please stop lying about him struggling to make 160, here's a fact: His trainer said HE DON'T EVEN GO ON DIETS BEFORE THE FIGHTS BECAUSE HE DON'T NEED TO CUT WEIGHT, and it's in some boxing magazine, you can check it if you really want facts, but it looks to me you don't care about them, in fact you prefer to tell lies if it suits your agenda. His trainer said, all Golovkin do is not eating sugar and bread neither if I'm not wrong. Struggling to make weight... you stans have a great imagination...

        PS: If someone is struggling to make weight it's Canelo, it's clear that he's a full middleweight... and I love Canelo, but I'm objective. You can tell you are not sold on Golovkin because he's not proven yet, hasn't fought a great opponent yet because it's true but stop with your nonsense you little homo thug.
        Last edited by StefanTosic; 08-12-2015, 03:22 PM.

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          #94
          Originally posted by T.M.T
          both these fighters are small jr middleweights neither should ever face GGG. he is struggling to make 160 and needs to take his a ss up to 168 and stop ducking andre ward.
          I'm sick of trying to educate people about fighters cutting weight. Canelo weighs more than Golovkin. The difference is Canelo cuts more weight/water weight to make weight for fights. So shut the **** up with this nonsense.

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          • aboutfkntime
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            #95
            Originally posted by mick1303
            Lies, lies and more lies. Where to start?
            "just like Golovkin did to Ward" - lie: Golovkin does not hold a belt at 168.
            So what ?

            Golovkin talked shht, then he pulled a lame catchweight to duck Ward.

            You can call it what you like, but we know whats up

            Originally posted by mick1303
            "chew lettuce" - another lie: GGG will demand a fight at full 160, because it is for the belt.
            Cotto/Canelo are real stars, if Golovkin wants to fight them then he will do whatever he is told...... but if he wants to fight another bum, then you could be right.

            Originally posted by mick1303
            "... for a vacant title and 500k" - another lie: GGG made 1 mil fighting Monroe - and this was no unification.
            I guess thats why he won't fight anyone dangerous.

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            • aboutfkntime
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              #96
              Originally posted by .:: JSFD26 ::.
              How new are you to boxing? Anything above 154 is considered MW.

              Also, anyone can weigh anything for any weightclass as long as they're not over the limit.
              Not as a divisional limit.

              Pretty dumb man.

              The divisional limit at middleweight is 160.

              Been like that forever.

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                #97
                Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                So what ?

                Golovkin talked shht, then he pulled a lame catchweight to duck Ward.

                You can call it what you like, but we know whats up



                Cotto/Canelo are real stars, if Golovkin wants to fight them then he will do whatever he is told...... but if he wants to fight another bum, then you could be right.



                I guess thats why he won't fight anyone dangerous.

                Doesn't help when all the anti-GGG fans such as yourself can only name Andre Ward as someone, "dangerous".


                also: Back in 2012 Ward said he'll fight anyone from 168-175. Still waiting on that. Kovalev has already called him out a few times. What's the excuse there? Waiting for Golovkin? You mean, like how Golovkin is waiting for Cotto/Canelo (except the difference is, they have a belt in Golovkin's division)?

                Sounds like double standards to me.

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                • HeroBando
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                  #98
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  Not as a divisional limit.

                  Pretty dumb man.

                  The divisional limit at middleweight is 160.

                  Been like that forever.
                  They're welcome to come in at 160. You are dumb indeed

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                  • aboutfkntime
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                    #99
                    For the casual fans who don't seem to know whats going on.....

                    The divisional limit for middleweight is 160, and it always has been.

                    Dishonest/fanboy posters who are lacking in knowledge are trying to confuse you, most likely to justify some lame catchweight on behalf of their current girlfriend.

                    It works like this.....

                    FACT: The divisional limit for middleweight is 160

                    meaning: you can weight up to 160 at the official weigh-in

                    FACT: When a contractual sanction is imposed reducing the maximum allowed weight for a middleweight bout below 160, then that fight becomes a catchweight contest by default

                    meaning: you can weigh up to the imposed sanction

                    How the fcuk could you asshats find that confusing.

                    Stop making lame childish excuses for your poosey girlfriend.

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                    • aboutfkntime
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                      For the casual fans who don't seem to know whats going on.....

                      The divisional limit for middleweight is 160, and it always has been.

                      Dishonest/fanboy posters who are lacking in knowledge are trying to confuse you, most likely to justify some lame catchweight on behalf of their current girlfriend.

                      It works like this.....

                      FACT: The divisional limit for middleweight is 160

                      meaning: you can weight up to 160 at the official weigh-in

                      FACT: When a contractual sanction is imposed reducing the maximum allowed weight for a middleweight bout below 160, then that fight becomes a catchweight contest by default

                      meaning: you can weigh up to the imposed sanction

                      How the fcuk could you asshats find that confusing.

                      Stop making lame childish excuses for your poosey girlfriend.
                      I will post this again, expecially for that dopey pacstain HeroBando

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