Comments Thread For: WBC is Firm: Cotto-Canelo winner must face GGG next!

[HeroBando]

I will post this again, expecially for that dopey pacstain HeroBando

But what's your point, idiot? You keep claiming that Canelo and Cotto are not MWs. That's obviously wrong, they're contesting for the MW title

[kafkod]

The RING and lineal titles are different things

He'd still have the lineal title because he never lost it, retired or moved division

There are several different sources of lineal title lists, but the Ring's lineal champions are the most widely recognised.

To keep hold of the Ring lineal title, all you need to do is successfully defend it against anybody in that division, within a period of not more than 2 years.

Andre Ward is still recognised as the lineal SMW champ by some sources, but the Ring stripped him of their lineal title in Feb, because he hadn't fought another SMW in over 2 years. So now, according to the Ring magazine, the lineal SMW title is vacant.

The winner of Cotto/Canelo could refuse to fight GGG and be stripped of the WBC belt, but still be recognised as lineal MW champ. Under those circumstances though, that wouldn't mean much.

[Eastcoast]

How quickly people forget about the Sergio Martinez/Sebastian Zbik/Julio Chavez Jr situation.

• After Alvarez beats Cotto by decision they'll announce a rematch
• The WBC will announce Golovkin the WBC MW champion
• The WBC will announce Alvarez the WBC MW Diamond champion
• Alvarez will beat Cotto a 2nd time and then take a couple of 160lbs fights prior to GGG

Even if Alvarez starches Cotto and there's no rematch, he'll defend his Diamond title a few times at 160lbs prior to Golovkin. Bottom line is that the WBC will protect Alvarez the same way they protected Chavez - all while keeping a title around their waist and the actual champion's waist.

[aboutfkntime]

So, I assume that most have seen an actual weigh-in ?

And I assume that most understand the concept.

Divisions, weight-limits, should not require an explanation.

But all of a sudden, your latest girlfriend decides to impose an additional sanction restricting the maximum weight that his opponent can make..... and you asshats turn into stuttering ******s who seemingly fail to understand the concept of divisions and weight restriction.

Feign ignorance if you must, but coming out with childish rubbish like..... but it close doe, but it within the divisional range doe, but he small doe..... proves that you are either unintelligent or dishonest.

Smarten up..... and if you do not wish to display the extent of your creepy man-love for your current girlfriend, then keep your silly excuses to yourself.

[aboutfkntime]

But what's your point, idiot? You keep claiming that Canelo and Cotto are not MWs. That's obviously wrong, they're contesting for the MW title

Foolio.....

JMW is 154, MW is 160.

Canelo weighs 155, and Cotto weighs 153.

You are obviously pretty ******.

Who cares what {insert silly ABC trinket here} is at stake.

You would have to be pretty fkn ****** to insist that a guy who weighs 153 is a middleweight.

Get a girlfriend you clown, that creepy man-love thing you got going for Golovkin makes your panties show.

[HeroBando]

Foolio.....

JMW is 154, MW is 160.

Canelo weighs 155, and Cotto weighs 153.

You are obviously pretty ******.

Who cares what {insert silly ABC trinket here} is at stake.

You would have to be pretty fkn ****** to insist that a guy who weighs 153 is a middleweight.

Get a girlfriend you clown, that creepy man-love thing you got going for Golovkin makes your panties show.

Lineal, WBC MW champ is a MW by definition. How ****** can you get? So is the guy that hasn't made 154 in 2 years

[aboutfkntime]

There are several different sources of lineal title lists, but the Ring's lineal champions are the most widely recognised.

To keep hold of the Ring lineal title, all you need to do is successfully defend it against anybody in that division, within a period of not more than 2 years.

Andre Ward is still recognised as the lineal SMW champ by some sources, but the Ring stripped him of their lineal title in Feb, because he hadn't fought another SMW in over 2 years. So now, according to the Ring magazine, the lineal SMW title is vacant.

The winner of Cotto/Canelo could refuse to fight GGG and be stripped of the WBC belt, but still be recognised as lineal MW champ. Under those circumstances though, that wouldn't mean much.

You can keep rubbish in anything.

A red container, a blue container, even a green one.

Cotto is the best MW, right ?

Stevenson is the best LHW, right ?

Shall I keep going, or are those two obvious examples enough to show you that " lineage " aint worth shht.

Tell me which of the last 5 lineal MW champs were the best in their division when they had the lineage?

Answer: NONE !

/topic

[aboutfkntime]

Lineal, WBC MW champ is a MW by definition. How ****** can you get? So is the guy that hasn't made 154 in 2 years

Dont be so ******.

Cotto won the WBC strap/lineage by winning a money fight with Martinez.

Are you not aware of that ?

You fanboy fascination with worthless ABC straps has turned you into an idiot.

OK idiot, a guy who weighs 153 is a middleweight.

OK then, whatever helps you sleep at night.

[techliam]

For the casual fans who don't seem to know whats going on.....

The divisional limit for middleweight is 160, and it always has been.

Dishonest/fanboy posters who are lacking in knowledge are trying to confuse you, most likely to justify some lame catchweight on behalf of their current girlfriend.

It works like this.....

FACT: The divisional limit for middleweight is 160

meaning: you can weight up to 160 at the official weigh-in

FACT: When a contractual sanction is imposed reducing the maximum allowed weight for a middleweight bout below 160, then that fight becomes a catchweight contest by default

meaning: you can weigh up to the imposed sanction

How the fcuk could you asshats find that confusing.

Stop making lame childish excuses for your poosey girlfriend.

A catchweight within the middleweight division, yes

[kafkod]

So, I assume that most have seen an actual weigh-in ?

And I assume that most understand the concept.

Divisions, weight-limits, should not require an explanation.

But all of a sudden, your latest girlfriend decides to impose an additional sanction restricting the maximum weight that his opponent can make..... and you asshats turn into stuttering ******s who seemingly fail to understand the concept of divisions and weight restriction.

Feign ignorance if you must, but coming out with childish rubbish like..... but it close doe, but it within the divisional range doe, but he small doe..... proves that you are either unintelligent or dishonest.

Smarten up..... and if you do not wish to display the extent of your creepy man-love for your current girlfriend, then keep your silly excuses to yourself.

You are saying somebody else doesn't understand the concept of weight limits, after you wrote this ... twice?

Because.....

1) anyone with an ounce of common-sense can see that Cotto weighs 153 and Canelo weighs 155..... BOTH are obviously JMW's

No !



Canelo and Cotto are obviously JMW's, weighing 155 and 153 respectively.

So you think 155lbs is obviously JMW? LMFAO!

Then you wrote this:

Middleweight has a limit of 160 bro, always has.

Anything from 154.1-159.9 is, a catchweight

You have been exposed in this thread, son.

I'd say it's aboutfkntime you shut up and stop making an idiot of yourself.