Sergey Kovalev future p4p number 1 after Floyd Pac and Wlad retire?

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  • Weebler I
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    #31
    Originally posted by Shpacman
    IMHO Kovalev hasn't proven yet that he is unbeatable at 175. His best wins are Hopkins and Pascal who aren't natural lightheavyweights. He has more serious challenge in Stevenson, Beterbiev and Ward, so now I can't say how he will take them.
    If Hopkins and Pascal aren't natural light-heavyweights then neither are Ward and Stevenson. Funny they all struggle making 168 though.

    Originally posted by New England
    if he beats andre ward it's going to be tough to claim taht anybody is a better p4p fighter. floyd is at the end of his career, and not in a great division. kovalev is in his prime, and would be fighting ward, a top p4p himself.
    I don't see Ward on any PFP lists.
    Last edited by Weebler I; 08-14-2015, 06:27 AM.

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    • Ahmed_Ismail
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      #32
      He's definitley in the top 10 but if he wants that number 1 spot he needs to beat Stevensons and soon cuz Stevenson is already 37, no need to pull out of purse bids, that would put him at the number 3-4 spot and if he beats Betriebev that would put him even further and if he beats Ward he's hands down number 1. Lomachenko is also a good runner up if he mans up and beats Walters then moved up and became a champ at 130.

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      • Suckmedry
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        #33
        I firmly believe that Kova is one of the best fighters I've ever seen

        his combo of brutal power with superb skill and a remarkable boxing brain is fcuking amazing. add in a brutal killer instinct and you've got one hell of a fighter.


        you don't dominate b-hop like that without A level skills. yeah hop was 50 but still.

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          #34
          hes so relaxed in there. its possibly his greatest asset.

          his bone numbing power means he always gets plenty of space and respect from opponents. this enables him to be very relaxed and do an awesome job at setting up and picking shots.

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          • Ray Corso
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            #35
            p4p means your skills translated to all divisions it has nothing to do with your division competition.
            The best p4p fighters right now are Gonzales & Rigo! They have all the moves and their well balanced on defense & offense.
            To me Chocolatito is the best, given his offensive status. His offense is his defense and thats the best defense to have not the Hopkins and Mayweather BS!

            Ray

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              #36
              Originally posted by Ray Corso
              p4p means your skills translated to all divisions it has nothing to do with your division competition.
              The best p4p fighters right now are Gonzales & Rigo! They have all the moves and their well balanced on defense & offense.
              To me Chocolatito is the best, given his offensive status. His offense is his defense and thats the best defense to have not the Hopkins and Mayweather BS!

              Ray
              Agree, but that's too subjective so it has turned into a resume competition.

              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              I agree.

              Gonzalez is on their heels though.

              There's also Rigondeaux out there.

              I think Thurman could end up in the conversation down the line because I don't see any WW'd beating him after Floyd leaves outside of maybe Pacquaio.
              Porter has a good chance, I don't think KT handles that inside pressure all that well. Brook & Maidana are also live against him imo.

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                #37
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                I agree.

                Gonzalez is on their heels though.

                There's also Rigondeaux out there.

                I think Thurman could end up in the conversation down the line because I don't see any WW'd beating him after Floyd leaves outside of maybe Pacquaio.

                i thought rigondeaux looked off against the asian fella.


                lots of the cuban baseball players in the states fake their birth certificates to make them seem like better prospects. rigondeaux is in his mid 30's, according to the records. who knows how old he is in reality.


                he had so many amateur fights, and is so small, that you ahve to figure that he's on the back nine.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Weebler I
                  If Hopkins and Pascal aren't natural light-heavyweights then neither are Ward and Stevenson. Funny they all struggle making 168 though.



                  I don't see Ward on any PFP lists.


                  i still see manny pacquiao in the top 3 of some lists. does that mean he's a top p4p fighter?

                  some people are unfit to use their eyes and rate a boxer.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Joey_Torreo
                    Is beterbiev ******? I didn't know that
                    You Beterbeliev it.

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                      #40
                      He will need to hope he can beat Beterbiev in the pros, I don't think Ward will take that number 1 spot not unless he moves up weight and beats the best of 175 but I think its a toss up between GGG, Kovalev, Ward and maybe Canelo (assuming he does carry on an impressive run)

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