Comments Thread For: Mayweather: I Beat The Big 3 - Pacquiao, Canelo, Cotto

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  • SkillspayBills
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    #81
    The big 3 are actually Pac, Cotto, and Marquez. Floyd still has that on his resume.

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    • -Kev-
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      #82
      Khan will not be happy about this. It's the Big 4, Khan included.

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      • Don Pichardo
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        #83
        Originally posted by Pigeons
        Cotto won the lineal MW title after losing to Floyd. I'm not sure how Cotto was finished when he fought Floyd. Taking a loss doesn't mean you're finished.
        Sure doesn't. And it doesn't mean floyd would win a rematch automatically either.

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        • MrClutch85
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          #84
          Originally posted by LostOne
          First fight wasn't close only Mayweather fans say that..."it was close but May easily won the 2nd fight." At the end of the day Mayweather got beat by a guy who had been knocked out in all 4 of his losses. Lets not pretend that the fact that May had just signed a 5 fight deal with HBO and Castillo was the first of five had nothing to do with it. Castillo wasn't going to mess up HBO's investment they made sure of it, all the judges had May winning by at least 4 points if that doesn't tell you the scorecards were fixed I don't know what does.
          Mayweather Castillo 1 had it 114-112 Mayweather. Mayweather Castillo 2 had it 115 -113 Mayweather

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          • damian War
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            #85
            Originally posted by LostOne
            First fight wasn't close only Mayweather fans say that..."it was close but May easily won the 2nd fight." At the end of the day Mayweather got beat by a guy who had been knocked out in all 4 of his losses. Lets not pretend that the fact that May had just signed a 5 fight deal with HBO and Castillo was the first of five had nothing to do with it. Castillo wasn't going to mess up HBO's investment they made sure of it, all the judges had May winning by at least 4 points if that doesn't tell you the scorecards were fixed I don't know what does.
            bro.. thats just your opinion.. just because a guy does better than you expect doesnt mean he won.. i had floyd winning 7-5. .you have a different score.. and thats why its a close fight.. which is why a rematch happened and all doubts were erased. . nobody expected algieri to give khan hell, but he did, does that mean he won? no khan won it in my book pretty convincing. close but clear win. .same thing with ppl that say peterson beat garcia, who expected garcia to get rocked the way he did..but that doesnt mean he lost, peterson didnt do much for 8 rounds.

            this can keep going.. maidana did better than expected first floyd fight , but lost, faded in the late rounds, but still some say he won..now contrast that with the floyd-cotto fight, cotto gave him hell but everyone agrees floyd won, because it was expected that a HOF opponent would be tough for floyd.

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            • SilverMiles
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              #86
              Originally posted by damian War
              bro.. thats just your opinion.. just because a guy does better than you expect doesnt mean he won.. i had floyd winning 7-5. .you have a different score.. and thats why its a close fight.. which is why a rematch happened and all doubts were erased. . nobody expected algieri to give khan hell, but he did, does that mean he won? no khan won it in my book pretty convincing. close but clear win. .same thing with ppl that say peterson beat garcia, who expected garcia to get rocked the way he did..but that doesnt mean he lost, peterson didnt do much for 8 rounds.

              this can keep going.. maidana did better than expected first floyd fight , but lost, faded in the late rounds, but still some say he won..now contrast that with the floyd-cotto fight, cotto gave him hell but everyone agrees floyd won, because it was expected that a HOF opponent would be tough for floyd.
              He lost the first Castillio fight clear as day, he was throughly outclassed that night. Highway robbery was the only thing that spared him that night.

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              • youbeight
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                #87
                Originally posted by SilverMiles
                He lost the first Castillio fight clear as day, he was throughly outclassed that night. Highway robbery was the only thing that spared him that night.
                Idk about that. Major newspapers across the country had it for Floyd. Even kellerman in his ESPN days couldn't give it to Castillo. Dan had it a draw. And the only thing that was wrong was how WIDE the judges had it. The decision was right but the score gaps were horrible. 114-112 115-111 max. The second fight was clear that Floyd won but bc or the judging in the first fight they surprisingly had it closer than the first fight.

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                • youbeight
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                  #88
                  Originally posted by SilverMiles
                  He lost the first Castillio fight clear as day, he was throughly outclassed that night. Highway robbery was the only thing that spared him that night.
                  Also to mention the only person scorecard that launched the idea of a robbery was Lederman's despite the fact majority disagreed with his scorecard.

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                  • SilverMiles
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by ryedes
                    Idk about that. Major newspapers across the country had it for Floyd. Even kellerman in his ESPN days couldn't give it to Castillo. Dan had it a draw. And the only thing that was wrong was how WIDE the judges had it. The decision was right but the score gaps were horrible. 114-112 115-111 max. The second fight was clear that Floyd won but bc or the judging in the first fight they surprisingly had it closer than the first fight.
                    The first Castillio fight just reenforces the fact that 10 point system isn't used effectively. The rounds you could give Floyd were close, but Castillio clearly beat Mayweather up in the later rounds and showed he was a class above Floyd that night and should have left with his title.

                    No way should Floyd been rewarded the decision, he knew.

                    You would have to give Floyd every close round to have him winning which I didn't. I score close worlds for the champion as it should be.

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                    • damian War
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by SilverMiles
                      He lost the first Castillio fight clear as day, he was throughly outclassed that night. Highway robbery was the only thing that spared him that night.
                      no, it was a close fight.. Lederman had Castillo 115-111, the AP had Mayweather 115-111, Dan Rafael had it 114-144, Kellerman gave it to Floyd.. it was close, competitive, which is why opinions vary, i had Floyd 7-5. thats just my scoring, who cares.

                      and after the rematch :

                      "I told you it would be easy this time. My plan was to box more, no power shots, be smart." - Floyd Mayweather Jr.

                      "I never figured him out. I think he fought a more intelligent fight this time. I never felt I did anything this time." - Jose Luis Castillo

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