If Ward said yes to 164 lbs do you think the fight would happen?

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Honestly probably not...

Everyone knows that Golovkin is going to beat everyone at 160 but get beat by Ward...

This fight does need to happen but not now.. Let Golovkin clear out 160 first and let Ward stay active and this fight will be huge in 18 months in 2017

[Weebler I]

I don't even think Ward would take the fight right away at 168, never mind Golovkin. I expect Ward to want/need another tune-up.

[Redd Foxx]

I don't even think Ward would take the fight right away at 168, never mind Golovkin. I expect Ward to want/need another tune-up.

Have you even been following this? Golovkin was calling out Ward but as soon as Ward was free of contract disputes, Ward said he wanted Golovkin and team GGG has had nothing but excuses. Ward has been saying he wants Golovkin now, then Kovalev at 175.

[Redd Foxx]

Ward was stripped of his lineal title by RING Magazine. Ward would want the lion's share of the purse and Golovkin would have a much better payday fighting the winner of Cotto - Canelo in any case. Ward is no longer one of the best fighters out there. He has to get a few fights under his belt again against top 5 contenders before anyone can make that claim. Finally, Ward could not even sell out his home arena even with the aid of giving away free tickets and had to settle for a time buy on BET to get his fight aired.

Ward is hardly a big name in the sport today. Absolutely no point in the fight until Golovkin is ready to move to 168 permanently.

Look, you're not fooling anyone and I don't even thinkyou believe 10% of what you say. You like to ankle bite and talk shyt about fights that won't happen. To bad Genady won't sack up and fight Andre. You guys that hide behind words you don't believe are conveniently alleviated of the truth for now but it will be a joyous day if your idol decides to take a real fight.

[2shameless]

Of course it would have. Yeah the Cotto/Canelo winner is a much bigger gig, but GGG could still take that after the Ward fight. In a perfect world GGG has Sturm, Martinez, Quillin and Cotto on his resume. Ward has Andre Dirrell, DeGale and Froch rematch in the UK. Linear SMW vs linear MW, either halfway or at 168. But those guys ducked GGG and Ward had his legal troubles. So it's a MW title holder vs a former elite SMW who doesn't have a title and whose 2 biggest wins have since retired.

Ward can either meet GGG halfway now, fight DeGale and reestablish his SMW throne, or move up and fight Kovalev or Stevenson. My guess is he'll continue to try and drag an inexperienced MW up to SMW for mediocre money, while fighting Smith level no-hopers. Which will be a damn shame.

[Rip Chudd]

Ward was stripped of his lineal title by RING Magazine. Ward would want the lion's share of the purse and Golovkin would have a much better payday fighting the winner of Cotto - Canelo in any case. Ward is no longer one of the best fighters out there. He has to get a few fights under his belt again against top 5 contenders before anyone can make that claim. Finally, Ward could not even sell out his home arena even with the aid of giving away free tickets and had to settle for a time buy on BET to get his fight aired.

Ward is hardly a big name in the sport today. Absolutely no point in the fight until Golovkin is ready to move to 168 permanently.

Oh ok I get it. Nothing having to do with legacy, but money. Ward is one of the best fighters out there. If you don't want to recognize it and think he needs more fights to prove it then ok, but the consensus among boxing pundits is that although he maybe boring, he's still a P4P fighter. I honestly don't really care about how much someone sells, I care about the best fighters fighting the best opposition. Seems that is lost amongst a lot of "boxing fans" on this site, which is a shame.

[Weebler I]

Have you even been following this? Golovkin was calling out Ward but as soon as Ward was free of contract disputes, Ward said he wanted Golovkin and team GGG has had nothing but excuses. Ward has been saying he wants Golovkin now, then Kovalev at 175.

Actions speak louder than words. Let's be clear about Ward, apart from the contractually bound Super 6 tournament, his best opponents have been:

Shot Miranda
168 Dawson
Rodriguez
Paul Smith

Since the Super 6, he has requested HBO to fight other sub-par comp such as the likes of Kashtanov, Truax and Sartison while turning down fights with Bute, Stevenson and road fights with Kessler & Froch and calling DeGale & Dirrell a step backwards.

Forgive me if I question his sincerity with regards to a fight with Golovkin.

[Reloaded]

Actions speak louder than words. Let's be clear about Ward, apart from the contractually bound Super 6 tournament, his best opponents have been:

Shot Miranda
168 Dawson
Rodriguez
Paul Smith

Since the Super 6, he has requested HBO to fight other sub-par comp such as the likes of Kashtanov, Truax and Sartison while turning down fights with Bute, Stevenson and road fights with Kessler & Froch and calling DeGale & Dirrell a step backwards.

Forgive me if I question his sincerity with regards to a fight with Golovkin.

lol apart from the super 6 wtf , GGG dont have a super 1 lol , thats the point GGG has fought nobody .

[mick1303]

Just rewatched Ward-Kessler. This was not boxing. Leading with a head on multiple occasions INTENTIONALLY. Ward is a VERY dirty fighter when the stakes are high. Kova better watch out for these billy-goat charges.

[kafkod]

I don't even think Ward would take the fight right away at 168, never mind Golovkin. I expect Ward to want/need another tune-up.

Actions speak louder than words. Let's be clear about Ward, apart from the contractually bound Super 6 tournament, his best opponents have been:

Shot Miranda
168 Dawson
Rodriguez
Paul Smith

Since the Super 6, he has requested HBO to fight other sub-par comp such as the likes of Kashtanov, Truax and Sartison while turning down fights with Bute, Stevenson and road fights with Kessler & Froch and calling DeGale & Dirrell a step backwards.

Forgive me if I question his sincerity with regards to a fight with Golovkin.

Ward was saying he needed tune-ups before facing a live opponent. Then, just as Loeffler and Oscar are about to close the deal for a unification fight between GGG and Lemieux, Andre suddenly changes his mind and says he wants to fight GGG next.

You would have to be very naive not to spot the connection there. Or very biased to try and pretend there is no connection.

To me, it's as clear as day that Ward only said he wanted to fight GGG this fall because he knew there was no chance of it happening.

Andre is very talented but also very cautious and risk averse. If he can carry on making money fighting guys like Paul Smith, I think he'll be quite happy to do that for the rest of his career.

Imo, he will never fight Kovalev and will probably find a reason not to fight GGG at 168, when the time comes.