What are things PBC could do better other than Matchmaking ?

[The Big Dunn]

I don't know if anyone has said this yet, but besides matchmaking. I think the biggest issue they have is bouncing around their shows from network to network and in different time slots(day to night). It's just hard to follow when it's on and where it's on. In order for PBC promotions to be a success on network TV and get good consistent rating they need to stick to maybe two networks, say ESPN on Friday nights then nbc on Saturday nights . Start a tradition fans can follow. Plus in order for this to be a success they are going to need the fringe fans and they are struggling to follow with all this jumping from network to network and in different time slots. I think if they did a Friday night show on ESPN and showcase all their good up and comers and showcase them in good tough fights people can really start to connect. Then on Saturday nights on nbc or cbs(one of those) only showcase their top stars in good tough matchups. Start a tradition where people will know that boxing will be on at this time, on this certain channel. Do that with good matchmaking and then I think they can really have something on their hands.

I just saw this. OK.

[boxinghead530]

I think the point you are missing, respectfully, is the different times and different networks allow you to possibly expand the audience and get younger fans that will stick around.

If you only have boxing on Sat nights at 10:30, you will never get new young fans and the audience will eventually die out as fans get older. You also alienate fans that can't afford to subscribe to HBO ort SHowtime on top of cable.

OK, so the issue you detailed is marketing, communications and promoting, not too many networks. They have issues that any new business/network has. You do not scrap the plan after 6 mos just because you are not doing 2 million viewers out the gate.

Again, I pointed out to you how boxing aired on TV when I was a young fan. If you have a good product, people will come find you.

Putting it on different stations allows you to get your product shown by a diverse group of people that also may help expand the fanbase.

Respectfully, your suggestions are good, but they would not expand the fanbase. What is wrong with re conditioning new fans to be able to see boxing on multiple channels at multiple times, like in boxing's heyday?

Why do you want the sport to limit itself to Saturday nights?

Your idea of expanding is good but PBC Promotions needs to start with a consistent platform first and show to themselves it will work. Then they can expand. Because coming out the gate with it being on who knows what channel at what time is not working. Start a tradition where you know boxing is on at this channel at this time and let it build up. Then after having good success with it they can expand it a little more. Because honestly their boucing around is not working.

[Deevel916]

I understand this completely. Its a tough choice-go to 1 network and hope you catch on or get on multiple stations and get exposed to diverse people and hopefully make them fans.

I guess it was easier to follow on multiple networks hen there were 14 rather than 990.

Maybe then the best compromise is Bounce TV is always Tuesday. Friday is always ESPN and then weekend afternoons is CBS and primetime is NBC.

You think this would meet your nee for consistency?

No because I have a life! Lol. I watch regular boxing on my off time and will make time for major ppv events on a sat night and host a party at my house for it. I won't stop what I'm doing to rush home to watch something like last weeks card. If I'm home then I'll tune in. If not I'll catch the replay.

[The Big Dunn]

Your idea of expanding is good but PBC Promotions needs to start with a consistent platform first and show to themselves it will work. Then they can expand. Because coming out the gate with it being on who knows what channel at what time is not working. Start a tradition where you know boxing is on at this channel at this time and let it build up. Then after having good success with it they can expand it a little more. Because honestly their boucing around is not working.

I saw your other post and I think that doing multiple networks but establishing a specific night/day on those networks works for me. So long as it's not just Saturday night then I am ok.

I truly believe the key to growth of the fanbase is diversity of start times and networks.

Agreed, the ratings are not as high as some expected on NBC and ESPN. As for smaller networks, its a catch 22-the ratings are low but its also one of the top programs on a smaller start up network.

[The Big Dunn]

No because I have a life! Lol. I watch regular boxing on my off time and will make time for major ppv events on a sat night and host a party at my house for it. I won't stop what I'm doing to rush home to watch something like last weeks card. If I'm home then I'll tune in. If not I'll catch the replay.

So you miss some stuff, there is more for everyone, no matter how much of a life you have. I think you can't have the sport cater its schedule just to fit you or those whose schedule is like yours.

[boxinghead530]

I saw your other post and I think that doing multiple networks but establishing a specific night/day on those networks works for me. So long as it's not just Saturday night then I am ok.

I truly believe the key to growth of the fanbase is diversity of start times and networks.

Agreed, the ratings are not as high as some expected on NBC and ESPN. As for smaller networks, its a catch 22-the ratings are low but its also one of the top programs on a smaller start up network.

Like any new start up business out there that wants to succeed. They have to build their product up first. Give it a chance to succeed first before expanding. If they can succeed and get great ratings on say an ESPN on a friday night and then CBS on Saturday night on a consistent basis. Then they can expand.

[Deevel916]

Your idea of expanding is good but PBC Promotions needs to start with a consistent platform first and show to themselves it will work. Then they can expand. Because coming out the gate with it being on who knows what channel at what time is not working. Start a tradition where you know boxing is on at this channel at this time and let it build up. Then after having good success with it they can expand it a little more. Because honestly their boucing around is not working.

This is a winning formula. Establish yourself, Be consistent, then expand.

[Derranged]

Aside from the match making, they could do better with the commentators. With all due respect for Sugar Ray Leonard, as a commentator he's worse than Lennox Lewis. Just awful. Also get rid of Marv Albert and Virgil Hunter. As a trainer, Virgil Hunter is quite knowledgeable but that doesn't necessarily translate into being a good commentator. I'd also like to say that these commentator should stop being so idiotically biased but that's a big problem with all of the networks.

I couldn't care less about the ring card girls as you typically don't see much of them anyway.

The one thing I like about PBC is that the introductions are relatively fast and there's no national anthems.

[The Big Dunn]

Like any new start up business out there that wants to succeed. They have to build their product up first. Give it a chance to succeed first before expanding. If they can succeed and get great ratings on say an ESPN on a friday night and then CBS on Saturday night on a consistent basis. Then they can expand.

They seem to be doing exactly this, but are trying to find networks for their shows. We are still only in month 6 of this so its hard to determine this model is failing.

Do you think if they promoted the shows on smaller networks better that would help?

[BostonGuy]

It all comes down to proper matchmaking. You could put a pile of poo in pretty packaging but that ain't gonna make smell or look any better.

We need better matchups and more competitive fights. Danny Garcia vs. a washed up Paulie Malignaggi just isn't gonna cut it.