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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #61
    Originally posted by HEND
    Lol, c'mon, that can't be an excuse. You know it damn well and we all know it. You can't pull out from a fight against a guy in you division based on "He missed weight last time, what if he does it already". I didn't see fighters make this excuse so far. I hope Lomachenko takes this fight. Walters stays in 126 so he is in his weight class and plays by the same rules as everyone else in it, he is no special exception just brcause he missed weight one time. Period.
    Originally posted by HEND
    Because like it or not dude, they are in the same weight class dude and Walters is the most serious opponent in this weightclass by far.
    Based on your logic nobody should fight Walters now at 126 because he once missed weight. Can't see why this "don't fight him unless he proves on his next fight that he can still make the weight." would only apply to Lomachenko. With the same effort why an other featherweight should test the waters for Lomachenko? You can't be serious. You basically say either that if someone misses weight once he may not return in that weight class ever, which is a BS OR that in this situation an other fighter should test the waters for Lomachenko to see if Walters can still make the weight or not.
    Please go away with this ****...
    there are multiple sanctions which can be used if a fighter doesn't make weight but the fact that he once missed it is not an excuse to pull out from the fight.
    If someone misses the weight, it shows they are unprofessional. I don't care if it's once or 10 times. He's not in the weight class because he came in as junior lightweight at his last weigh-in.

    Lomachenko shouldn't be criticised for Walters' ***ing up. Walters should be the one criticised and made to prove himself again.

    Why would Lomachenko do a full camp only for this guy to fail weight again and then not even be able to fight him for a vacant title at least. Where is the logic? So then the fight gets cancelled and it just wastes everyone's time. What does Lomachenko gain from it? Again...show me the logic.

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    • HEND
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      #62
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      If someone misses the weight, it shows they are unprofessional. I don't care if it's once or 10 times. He's not in the weight class because he came in as junior lightweight at his last weigh-in.

      Lomachenko shouldn't be criticised for Walters' ***ing up. Walters should be the one criticised and made to prove himself again.

      Why would Lomachenko do a full camp only for this guy to fail weight again and then not even be able to fight him for a vacant title at least. Where is the logic? So then the fight gets cancelled and it just wastes everyone's time. What does Lomachenko gain from it? Again...show me the logic.
      Show the logic? Okay. The logic is that it's not a rule set in stone that if a fighter blew up the weigh once than he can never ever go back to that weight class. That's ridiculous. If he can make the weight again then you can't ban him from compete in that weight class. Even if he was unprofessional once.
      I saw fighters who stayed in their weight class despite they didn't make the weight once and they made the weight on their next fights. And as far as I remember nobody from their weight class bitched about it and nobody used their "unprofessional mentality" I mean that they didn't make weight once to duck them.

      I tell you what's the situation. I don't assume that Loma ducks him because we will have yet to see what's their reaction to Walter's staying in 126 BUT if they will do what you say I mean they start whining about Walters didn't make weight once and they won't fight him solely based on that then it's a straight duck, nothing more. Walters is in his weight class.

      Based on your logic nobody should fight Walters ever in 126 just because he didn't make the weight once. That's cringeworthy. I guess you don't want to say that this is only applies to Loma and others should take the fight with him in 126... -->So you literally say that if someone blew the weight once then he should be banned from return in that division forever, regardless that he feels that he can still make it.
      Is that what you want to say?

      And you ignore the fact that there are plenty of ways to punish someone if he doesn't make weight.

      It seems like you either don't want a Loma vs Walter fight or you want to be the first one to make the excuse for Loma's team to why not to fight the other best fighter of his weight class despite that Loma and his team didn't even react to Walter's decision yet. Or more likely both of these.

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        #63
        Originally posted by HEND
        Show the logic? Okay. The logic is that it's not a rule set in stone that if a fighter blew up the weigh once than he can never ever go back to that weight class. That's ridiculous. If he can make the weight again then you can't ban him from compete in that weight class. Even if he was unprofessional once.
        I saw fighters who stayed in their weight class despite they didn't make the weight once and they made the weight on their next fights. And as far as I remember nobody from their weight class bitched about it and nobody used their "unprofessional mentality" I mean that they didn't make weight once to duck them.

        I tell you what's the situation. I don't assume that Loma ducks him because we will have yet to see what's their reaction to Walter's staying in 126 BUT if they will do what you say I mean they start whining about Walters didn't make weight once and they won't fight him solely based on that then it's a straight duck, nothing more. Walters is in his weight class.

        Based on your logic nobody should fight Walters ever in 126 just because he didn't make the weight once. That's cringeworthy. I guess you don't want to say that this is only applies to Loma and others should take the fight with him in 126... -->So you literally say that if someone blew the weight once then he should be banned from return in that division forever, regardless that he feels that he can still make it.
        Is that what you want to say?

        And you ignore the fact that there are plenty of ways to punish someone if he doesn't make weight.

        It seems like you either don't want a Loma vs Walter fight or you want to be the first one to make the excuse for Loma's team to why not to fight the other best fighter of his weight class despite that Loma and his team didn't even react to Walter's decision yet. Or more likely both of these.
        I never suggested he should be banned from the weight class lol. If he can make the weight again, then prove it. Win your belt back so at least Lomachenko has the option to fight for it.

        Otherwise Lomachenko is just throwing a bone to a guy who has proven to be unprofessional with nothing to gain from it.

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          #64
          Unrelated news? Panty cruz recently said he'll get a title at 140

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          • tiliheels
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            #65
            Originally posted by richardt
            The only ***ing joke is your obvious double standard making it okay for one bigger fighter to fight a smaller one but not another bigger fighter to fight a smaller one.
            nowhere in his comment did he say he doesnt want to rigo vs lomo...sooooo

            u're level of protection for lomo at this point is neck high bru..we dont need protection plan fans in the sport of boxing..

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            • Ahmed_Ismail
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              #66
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              Isn't that a legitimate and fair gripe since he did miss the weight last time?

              Walters should win his old belt back and prove he can make 126. At least then Lomachenko can fight for the vacant belt if he were to miss weight for their fight.
              I don't like to insult people but this is straight up ******! He should prove he can make 126, really? how can Walters be sure that Lomachenko will make weight? what does missing weight for a fight have to do with a completely different fight at a completely different point in time? Lomachenko's camp should have a strong condition in the contract regarding the weight, just say if u miss weight u lose ur purse to ur opponent on the scales or the fight is off, also there are 30 day weigh ins and 6 day weigh ins to make sure fighters are on the right track to make weight so that the people don't bet on the fight and then the fight get cancelled, u miss weight on either weigh in the fight is off and/or u pay a fine, but Walters proving he can make weight by making weight for a fight before he fights Lomachenko is absolute BS!
              Last edited by Ahmed_Ismail; 07-30-2015, 09:28 AM.

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              • tiliheels
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                #67
                Originally posted by NEETzsche
                he's probably going to have to prove it before team lomachenko take him at his word. i guess cuellar is his best option to quickly recapture a belt, what with russell jr being on pbc and selby probably holding the ibf hostage for a while
                cuellar has been with haymon as well...dont buy this "he needs a belt" excuse...lomo in his last 2 fight has not fought belt holders..the fans know the fight they want to see and we care less about belts when we want to see them..

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                • tiliheels
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Najuk
                  any link to this?
                  yes i posted it in these comment already..it is an espn article..

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                  • tiliheels
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by John Locke
                    lol @ people expecting this tiliheels to back up his lies with a link. He is a compulsive liar and randomly makes things up on the spot. When you ask him for a link/source, he either goes into hiding or changes the subject. Absolute weirdo.

                    He literally lies about everything.
                    and wouldnt u feel like an idiot if u look through the comments more and find a boxing scene and espn link...idk if boxing scene deletes links to other places...but i know links are int hese comments...

                    and for the record just bc i follow boxing harder than you doesnt mean i have to freaking go link hunting from month ago to provide you with a reason that you favorit fighter is B1THCHING UP

                    u think all the ppl in the comment section talkin about him ducking bc of the weight are just talking for no reason?

                    u just the dumb kid in the class that forgot or didnt do the work...now u wanna look off my paper...no suck my c 0ck instead

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                    • Dirk Diggler UK
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail
                      I don't like to insult people but this is straight up ******! He should prove he can make 126, really? how can Walters be sure that Lomachenko will make weight? what does missing weight for a fight have to do with a completely different fight at a completely different point in time? Lomachenko's camp should have a strong condition in the contract regarding the weight, just say if u miss weight u lose ur purse to ur opponent on the scales or the fight is off, also there are 30 day weigh ins and 6 day weigh ins to make sure fighters are on the right track to make weight so that the people don't bet on the fight and then the fight get cancelled, u miss weight on either weigh in the fight is off and/or u pay a fine, but Walters proving he can make weight by making weight for a fight before he fights Lomachenko is absolute BS!

                      These are the best 2 in the division, if the fight gets made, the WBA will make this a title fight for their vacant title cz Walters is the number 1 guy there and Lomachenko is a good name, so Lomachenko complaining about this not being a title fight is also BS, Walters IS the number 1 guy he just doesn't have the dumb belt and u will fight him for the belt, I see absolutely no problem with this fight happening later this year.
                      Lomachenko has never failed to make weight. Walters failed to make weight in his last fight.

                      Am I talking to children here? It's pretty basic stuff.

                      Walters lost his title. Some Argentine kid has it. Why can't he go win it back and then fight Lomachenko?

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