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  • The Big Dunn
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    #91
    Originally posted by MDPopescu
    Now about the 'purse bid'.

    First, the promoters of each fighter attempt to compromise the purse amount and split, the TV channel for the fight, a.s.o., until they eventually reach an agreement...
    But if no compromise can be reached, then the sanctioning body in charge of the bout (i.e. WBC) eventually calls for a purse bid.

    My question for is: do you have a link or whatever which tells that the promoters (i.e Michel in our case) in this case ever entered a negotiation of some sort?
    If Michel negotiation tactic was to wait until the bid knowing he had more resources after Duva's request to be the mando, why are you complaining? They are entitled to try and "win". Kov is not entitled to get what he wants as so many of his fans seem to think.

    Duva made a move and Michel made a counter move. They are both doing what they can to get the best for their fighter.

    There is no way you can justify the actions of Kov/Duva with respect to 2015 and the Stevenson fight. They got what they wanted but didn't think it through.

    They got out strategized. How about you ask them to be smarter than asking what Michel did or didn't do.

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    • yoshik
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      #92
      The only people

      ...spinning that Kov is ducking Stevenson are of the same ethnicity. And the are full of ****.

      They think Ward is invincible, that Fraud is TBE and give Pac, one of the greatest fighters in the history of the game no respect.

      They have zero credibility with me. ZERO

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      • MDPopescu
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        #93
        Originally posted by MDPopescu
        Now about the 'purse bid'.

        First, the promoters of each fighter attempt to compromise the purse amount and split, the TV channel for the fight, a.s.o., until they eventually reach an agreement...
        But if no compromise can be reached, then the sanctioning body in charge of the bout (i.e. WBC) eventually calls for a purse bid.

        My question for is: do you have a link or whatever which tells that the promoters (i.e Michel in our case) in this case ever entered a negotiation of some sort?

        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        If Michel negotiation tactic was to wait until the bid knowing he had more resources after Duva's request to be the mando, why are you complaining? They are entitled to try and "win". Kov is not entitled to get what he wants as so many of his fans seem to think.

        Duva made a move and Michel made a counter move. They are both doing what they can to get the best for their fighter.

        There is no way you can justify the actions of Kov/Duva with respect to 2015 and the Stevenson fight. They got what they wanted but didn't think it through.

        They got out strategized. How about you ask them to be smarter than asking what Michel did or didn't do.
        I asked a question about "negotiations", which you ignored...

        (Was I complaining of anything above? About what?)

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        • The Big Dunn
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          #94
          Originally posted by MDPopescu
          I asked a question about "negotiations", which you ignored...

          (Was I complaining of anything above? About what?)
          I answered the questions about negotiations-Duva asked to be the mando she got what she wanted. Michel realized that forcing the purse bid was to his advantage, so he likely "negotiated" in a way that forced it to go to a bid.

          My point to you is simple-do not cry about that or ask Michel to take the high road. Duva played her card when she went to the commission and got placed as the mandatory. To counter that Michel played his by negotiating to force the purse bid.

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            #95
            Originally posted by The Big Dunn
            I answered the questions about negotiations-Duva asked to be the mando she got what she wanted. Michel realized that forcing the purse bid was to his advantage, so he likely "negotiated" in a way that forced it to go to a bid.

            My point to you is simple-do not cry about that or ask Michel to take the high road. Duva played her card when she went to the commission and got placed as the mandatory. To counter that Michel played his by negotiating to force the purse bid.
            You're right, Duva got played. However the offer is still there, 50/50 on HBO. The alternative is more scrubs for less money. Which way you think Stevenson goes?

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              #96
              Originally posted by HeroBando
              You're right, Duva got played. However the offer is still there, 50/50 on HBO. The alternative is more scrubs for less money. Which way you think Stevenson goes?
              And the answer is: BoxRec.com #16 ranked light heavyweight, Tommy Karpency, on September 11, 2015. scrub

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              • The Big Dunn
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                #97
                Originally posted by HeroBando
                You're right, Duva got played. However the offer is still there, 50/50 on HBO. The alternative is more scrubs for less money. Which way you think Stevenson goes?
                That isn't the only alternative.

                Stevenson can wait to see if Kov lives up to his words and tries to unify all the belts when his HBO deal is over. He can continue to fight and build to a Beterbiev clash.

                Sorry dude but Kov moving away from the fight and going to HBO doesn't make him the power broker. He can keep on fighting in house mismatches and make as much as he wants.

                He will never be the king of the division without leaving HBO.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  That isn't the only alternative.

                  Stevenson can wait to see if Kov lives up to his words and tries to unify all the belts when his HBO deal is over. He can continue to fight and build to a Beterbiev clash.

                  Sorry dude but Kov moving away from the fight and going to HBO doesn't make him the power broker. He can keep on fighting in house mismatches and make as much as he wants.

                  He will never be the king of the division without leaving HBO.
                  Gotcha, more scrubs for less money.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by GStalker
                    oh wow smh

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                    • The Big Dunn
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by HeroBando
                      Gotcha, more scrubs for less money.
                      Yes, that is what Kov is going to do since he resigned with HBO after pulling out of the purse bid. He could've had the shot he wanted for far more money. Lets not blame Stevenson for Kov's decisions.

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