What Really Happened on our Fight of the Century

[BrometheusBob.]

Loooooooooool. You can taste the saltiness in those tears.

Eh I think I agree with him to some extent, but I've given up arguing the point. Doing so results in getting trolled endlessly by Floyd fan posters such as yourself who have long decided they weren't going to see this as anything other than a thorough beatdown over 12 rounds. But, to be fair to y'all, I'm sure many of the posters still arguing Pac's case would probably still be clowning y'all just the same if it had been a clear decision (or god forbid a stoppage) in the other direction.

Enjoy your victory, it comes with a side order of Berto on PPV.

[The Big Dunn]

Really no point in discussing this fight anymore because anyone who likes Manny will say ANYTHING except that Floyd decisively beat Manny in a one sided fight because they spent the last 6 years arguing how good Manny was, Floyd was afraid of him, and Maanny was going to beat him.

How did hardcore fans of this sport on NSB allow themselves to be so badly manipulated by TR and HBO?

[BrometheusBob.]

Really no point in discussing this fight anymore because anyone who likes Manny will say ANYTHING except that Floyd decisively beat Manny in a one sided fight because they spent the last 6 years arguing how good Manny was, Floyd was afraid of him, and Maanny was going to beat him.

How did hardcore fans of this sport on NSB allow themselves to be so badly manipulated by TR and HBO?

I guess I can change up and be manipulated by Lederman and Farhood instead.

[hugh grant]

After the fight people thought Floyd had done better than he really had, because it was a case of Pac not looking himself for some reason, and they de duced it must be because of the success of Floyd.

But it was a close fight. Some of the slo mos of Floyd prodding punches shouldn't really have been scored but I bet they were.

[The plunger man]

No matter what you say to a mayweather fan....it won't get through there cranium and register with them....most of them are either inbred.....racist......or woman beaters and there part of mayweather brothers Union of ******s.......no way on earth did floyd win by more than a round.....should have been a draw or each fighter by a round......jnr didn't didn't dominate the fight the way the commentators made you believe......at first I scored it for floyd 8-4 when I wqtxhed it live......my opinion has changed a lot after watching it numerous times to a very close split decision.......mayweather pulled off an illusion and pacquaio was unfortunately the White rabbit out the hat.....should be a rematch next year.......

[H-Tok]

"Clean effective punching: Manny " please close this thread, this is ridiculous....jeez

[New England]

lmao fight of the century

that wasn't even fight of the hour or fight of the weekend

i've seen better fights in hockey pads and skates

[Da Boxer]

It's amazing that through frame by frame replays you could really watch how these two legends at the pinnacle of their skills work. What is really amazing to me is that pacquiao who clearly fought floyd's game whether he planned it or floyd has able to lure him into it was able to neutralize floyd defensively and floyd was missing his punches all over in inches by inches, and although pacquiao was expected to miss a lot due to the defensive prowess of floyd, which he did, pacquiao clearly landed the more meaningful and effective clean punches in the fight and this is undeniable.

Now, we as floyd fans, was hypocritically saying that floyd had clearly schooled or dominated the fight, we want it so badly that we are beginning to believe it ourselves, but it's really not the fact, the actual fight is so VERY VERY VERY close. Do not listen to the jim lampley, roy jones or any of the compubox mumbo jumbo because it's all flawed and subjective, trust your eyes, watch it frame by frame in slow motion because that is the real deal and you will see the truth. And the truth is the fight could go either way because it's that close. The truth is manny pacquiao is the one who landed the more meaningful and clean effective punches, floyd missed a LOT too and I mean a LOT as much as pacquiao did.

Here is the real score and what it's suppose to be, if we are to apply the actual basis on how this game is scored in today's boxing standard:

Clean effective punching: Manny
Effective aggressiveness: Manny
Ring Generalship: Floyd
Defense: Floyd

No way you could argue with that because first of all, clean effective punching belongs clearly to Manny, No way you can fool a frame by frame, slow motion nowadays.

Secondly, effective aggressiveness still belongs to manny because first of all, floyd isn't aggressive at all, why would a judge give this to floyd that's ridiculous, a guy who isn't aggressive at all can't be effective. And although manny's aggressiveness is being tamed by floyd's effective defense, it is Manny Pacquiao who is the more assertive and aggressive between the two so clearly this factor is in Manny Pacquiao's favor.

Thirdly, ring generalship belongs clearly to Floyd, no way it's going to belong to Manny because the flow and pace of the fight was in floyd's favor, Manny fought floyd's pace and style. No way to argue about this.

Fourthly, although both are superb defensively, and if you watch it frame by frame in slow motion, it could go either way,but for me, I'll give it to floyd because clearly he was able to tame Pacquiao's supposedly overwhelming offensive game and usual output.

***Okay so do you guys/gals see the flaw in today's scoring system? You're not alone, what is wrong here is that they made the scoring a subjective type instead of an objective one like most other modern sports. Why would they make such a thing? Why make it harder to score for themselves than it really is specially with today's technology is a great puzzle to us. Maybe they are stuck in the old traditional ways and still afraid of change or maybe they want to purposely control and from time to time encourage controversial decisions themselves so that they can skew/favor the result of the fight to the fighter which will benefit their own business welfare in the long run, we really do not know the real answer. But one thing we know is, clearly, this system does not work anymore because it has resulted in too many controversial decisions, the list of controversial and flawed decisions are already too long to count that you just have to accept it.

Bottom-line: We now have the technology in our hands and this isn't 1800's anymore, change the scoring system and find a way to incorporate replay system with it; --every modern sports now have incorporated replay in their scoring system, why does the most dangerous sport in modern times, where every punch thrown can cause hematoma and death to human being still doesn't have the luxury of a truly accurate objective scoring system? Basketball has one now, Tennis has one now and a countless many other modern sports, and that's ridiculous because that's not so dangerous as boxing. Come on, it's time to change.

In conclusion, there is no heroism nor celebration here for the fans, the fight of century is so awful for the casuals because they cancel out each other, only us, true hardcores of the game can appreciate the skill level involved in that fight. The fact is, both of them are so good at evading each others arsenal and the thinking part of the game that they could go on forever like that and no eventful thing will happen. Pacquiao fought floyd's game whether his team planned it or lured by floyd and whatnot and that's what happened, they cancel out each other, they are so so good defensively that the fight ended that way till the end.

Cool and dandy BUT...fights are NOT scored in "super slow-motion, frame-by-frame" etc. They are scored live, round by round.

Do judges see every little aspect? No. But, its their job to be objective and non-bias.

Its perfect? No. Does it works? Yes.

[Showtime..]

After the fight people thought Floyd had done better than he really had, because it was a case of Pac not looking himself for some reason, and they de duced it must be because of the success of Floyd.

But it was a close fight. Some of the slo mos of Floyd prodding punches shouldn't really have been scored but I bet they were.

It's just this. 90% of people watching were r*tarded and expected something else. Given their age and Pacquiao's injury, there was a 100% guarantee that they aren't gonna get what was expected all these years.

Not to say only PAC looked like ****. As did Floyd. He looked down-right garbage at times in the fight. Missing by miles. Ugly, but competitive fight.

[SilverMiles]

Fight was very close but the Floyds refuse to admit it because for so many years they claimed Floyd was such a superior boxer and would easily outbox Manny.

But what happened was a pure boxing match and their hero really couldn't figure Manny out, so he just played it safe. Floyd really just fought to survive and not end up like Cotto and Margarito.

The commentary was very bias but what to expect when the biggest fight in boxing is between a foreigner and an American. They obviously going to favor their country man.

The only problem I really had through was the compubox counting punches that tapped and even missed. I mean theyre instances were the compubox state are showing and you see them counting punches Floyd miss but not Manny's.

Fight was mostly a cash grab anyway and a spectacle to call Floyd the best, there was only one outcome and that had been decided long before the fight.