Comments Thread For: Kovalev Back on 11/28 in Russia, Beterbiev To Get Offer

[HEND]

I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous. Beterbiev has displayed zero versatility or defense so far, because he hasn't needed it. He's sure as hell not as good at either as Kovalev.

Last few times I saw him he took his head out of the way of punches pretty nicely sometimes and though he is (I think) a pressure fighter at some points he showed that he can **** on the backfoot too which is very important imo...

[SugarRaRobinson]

I doubt they have any real intention of fighting Beterbiev

I second that notion .

[Eff Pandas]

I doubt they have any real intention of fighting Beterbiev

You think Kathy just enjoys all the sexual tension with Yvon & Al?

[Cuban Linx]

I'm sorry, but that's ridiculous. Beterbiev has displayed zero versatility or defense so far, because he hasn't needed it. He's sure as hell not as good at either as Kovalev.

Yea this situation will play a lot like the Marriaga/Walters fight. Amateur wins sometimes make a difference (Vernon vs. Shane), but most of the times they don't.

I see Kovalev just battering him.

[kiaba360]

I think this whole pressure to put Beterbiev in the ring with Kovalev or Stevenson is way, way premature. Both guys would kick his ass.

It's hard to gauge where Adonis is at right now, given his age/inactivity and lackluster performances.

[HI-TECH Boxing]

Boxing fans kinda suck lets be real. Some % of boxing fans call everybody except "their guy" a hype job. Who cares. And Sergey isn't getting much credit for beating the **** outta the French version of Shaft or whoever that poor bastard was last night anyway so its not like he's losing much if he fights a guy with 9 fights or a Bulgarian garbage man next does it?



I don't see how this is a lose lose situation at all. Kov gets Beterbiev early rather than later. He likely saves a title cuz if this happens in a year because Beterbiev is the mandatory I think its very likely we got a repeat of the Stevenson purse bid situation & Kov just Bowe's a title cuz his team has made it known they aren't fighting off of HBO & Haymon is willing to pay guys more.

I definitely agree Duva is trying to make Haymon look bad. Haymon is deep inside Duva' brain at this point. BUT that doesn't change the fact that this is a huge opportunity & would give Haymon/GYM all the 175lb titles & making for a huge unification fight with Stevenson on PBC or PPV or w/e at some point. And there are far more dangerous things to lose here than a fight for Beterbiev & GYM. Losing this opportunity could be the only chance they have at making this fight with all the drama between the parties involved.



The guy hits like a fictional being. Kov is hittable. I thought Pascal was doing some nice work on him at times. Beterbiev isn't becoming Pernell Whitaker in 12-18 months. He's gonna win that fight cuz he can ****ing hit not cuz of seasoning. It won't hurt, but its not THAT much of a game changer.

Well of course you don't mind this fight right now. You're probably not a Beterbiev fan. Some people would probably like nothing more than to see these two Russian punchers eliminate each other right now. I'm actually a Beterbiev fan and I don't think he should take the fight this soon. I'm actually looking out for his best interest.
Most fans were heavily criticizing Artur as a one dimensional bum after his last fight, now all of the sudden they really want to see him face Kovalev, probably the most dangerous fighter in all of boxing, in his 10th fight.
What happened to the people that were saying even Fonfara would beat Artur? I want Artur to build up like a normal contender, except he's doing it even faster than most. Some fighters don't even fight for a belt after 5 years as professionals. I want to see Artur fight the Fonfara's.
To me this is THE Super Fight of the 175 division and needs a little more building up. Like I said before we won't have to wait years for it, I say it probably happens early 2017 (time goes by fast, we should all know this by now). I'm not expecting Artur to change his style, but he needs to answer questions as a professional.

A defeat can be very crucial for Artur, he may not get another shot for years, so might as well wait it out. They already promised him a Fonfara type of opponent for his next fight in October and a title shot in his last fight this year. Those are the type of fights Artur needs right now to develop. I know Artur is going to Knock Fonfara out, some have their doubts, well thats a fight that will continue to hype up Artur and that will tell us a lot about him.

I was right after all. I said that they will use Artur as Stevenson's protection. I'll be interested in Artur vs. Adonis if they can't get Adonis vs Sergey. If Artur or When Artur beats Adonis it would just hype up the Kovalev vs Beterbiev fight even more. This is a fight that can be build up, I'm not expecting a Mayweather vs. Pacquiao type of event, but it'll be bigger in a year-year and a half than it would be right now. This is a fight that actually makes sense to build up a little.

[Ravens Fan]

Lmao , I'm Sure . I was actually giving your predictable azz a chance to save face and say you was talking about Kov's racist azz this time around thats why I framed my question that way .u know , at least allow u the opportunity to APPEAR neutral. I did however suspect the "super douche" was a baited hook as it was a bit over compensatory for u , as u tend to defend those who like to smear him instead of engaging in it yourself . Unless I just haven't read enough of your post to see it .

I honestly don't care how you framed it or even why. I just knew you couldn't resist, yet once again, a chance to play the race card. And you dare to call someone else predictable??? Now that is some funny 5hit right there. Have a good one race-baiter!!!

[Eff Pandas]

Well of course you don't mind this fight right now. You're probably not a Beterbiev fan.

Beterbiev is one of my favorite up & coming guys in the sport. He's KOing high caliber guys. He deserves this fight more than the guy last night. You'd have to be blind not to see that.

Some people would probably like nothing more than to see these two Russian punchers eliminate each other right now.

Eliminate each other??? LOL wtf you talking about. This fight could be a epic trilogy in boxing history potentially. These are two mean motor scooters brother.

Most fans were heavily criticizing Artur as a one dimensional bum after his last fight, now all of the sudden they really want to see him face Kovalev, probably the most dangerous fighter in all of boxing, in his 10th fight.

Most fans suck. I mentioned that already. I wouldn't encourage you to listen to them & they will be bopping on Beterbiev's knob at some point soon cuz he's fun af to watch.

What happened to the people that were saying even Fonfara would beat Artur?

Who cares what happened to some fans who may or may not be knuckleheads.

I want Artur to build up like a normal contender, except he's doing it even faster than most. Some fighters don't even fight for a belt after 5 years as professionals. I want to see Artur fight the Fonfara's.

I'm glad to see guys moved faster lately. Rigo, Loma, a bunch of TR's Olympic guys. Beterbiev is in this category to. He had a high level amateur career. He's not on that 4-5 year plan. Loma caught an L early. So what. L's are so overrated in boxing today. Guys think Ali or Robinson were undefeated or something with how ****ty fans act like catching a L is.

And yea I got np with Beterbiev vs Fonfara. They can make that fight now or after Kovalev if they accept that fight. That seems like it'd be a fun fight too.

To me this is THE Super Fight of the 175 division and needs a little more building up. Like I said before we won't have to wait years for it, I say it probably happens early 2017 (time goes by fast, we should all know this by now). I'm not expecting Artur to change his style, but he needs to answer questions as a professional.

Beterbiev is gonna be as old as GGG right now & still looking for a career defining fight? Thats silly. He's a talented guy capable of big things, but his career is burning daylight already. He's been fighting professionally for 2 years. he's got maybe 4-6 years probably as of today to make something happen before he's on the downside of his career. And worse case he loses & he can follow your road from there & rebuild for a 2017 big fight. No harm no foul.

A defeat can be very crucial for Artur, he may not get another shot for years, so might as well wait it out.

He's an elite guy in an non-elite division (imo). If he can't beat Kovalev he's still gonna be a top 3, top 5 caliber guy & will get shots at titles again. And the thing with Kovalev is that would be a huge scalp & a scalp I think he's capable of taking & if his team turns down this fight it may never be a chance given again. Thats worth considering here to. I think the odds are very solid that if Beterbiev passes & is the mandatory for Kov's title in late 2016 that Haymon/GYM will win the purse bid (cuz these sides don't play well together it would seem) & Kov just drops the title & thats a scalp he'll never even get the chance to take.

I'll be interested in Artur vs. Adonis if they can't get Adonis vs Sergey.

Stevenson vs Kov isn't happening. But yea I agree I'd be interested in Beterbiev vs Stevenson myself. I'm interested in Beterbiev vs anyone at 175 & the more notable the better. He's a entertaining elite talent. Why wouldn't anyone wanna watch him vs anyone at his weight?

If Artur or When Artur beats Adonis it would just hype up the Kovalev vs Beterbiev fight even more. This is a fight that can be build up, I'm not expecting a Mayweather vs. Pacquiao type of event, but it'll be bigger in a year-year and a half than it would be right now. This is a fight that actually makes sense to build up a little.

If Beterbiev beats Stevenson I think that would actually make Kov vs Beterbiev harder to make cuz HBO has shown they aren't willing to pay what PBC is paying & at the end of the day these guys don't have nor are likely to have the type of mainstream following to get two huge en****** in boxing to come together on terms to make the fight happened. Trying to build up this fight more is just gonna result in less chance of it happening. This is one of the flaws with boxing in general & something boxing could learn a lot from the UFC concerning. When a fight is hot in the UFC they make it within 3-4 months an overwhelming majority of the time. When a fight is hot in boxing they rarely make it within a year. Everything has to bake a little longer in boxing for some reason & we gotta see these amazing talents fight Bulgarian garbage men & French pimps instead of seeing a compelling or great fight. Thats the old way. People don't got time for waiting on all these great fights. Thats probably one of the many reasons so many fans have drifted away from boxing. This is a "give it to me now" culture & boxing is always like "nah just wait a lilllllllll biiiittttt loooonnggerrrrr".

[Bronx2245]

Then...Fonfara gets knocked out

The question I was asking was: Would Duva accept Fonfara as an opponent for a fight in Russia? Do you think Duva SHOULD accept Fonfara? Do you think Duva WILL accept Fonfara as an opponent?

[Bronx2245]

Is Fonfara vs Cleverly still on?



Ward to step up seems right. Kovalev and Stevenson have clearly been at the top of the division for long enough. They shouldn't be allowed to get away with not fighting each other. Ward can have the loser.

I saw reports that Fonfara was to fight Cleverly sometime this fall, but I've never seen a report saying the contracts were signed, sealed, and delivered.