Is Ward scared of Kovalev? NSB hypocrisy? (videos)

[torosboxing75]

More people want to see Golovkin/Ward than Ward/Kovalev and most want to see both. The logical order is Golovkin before Kovalev for Ward.

Like wise the most logical order for GGG is the winner of Canelo/Cotto then Ward.

[HEND]

Duva said that she talked baboutaWard vs Kovalev fight with RN and both parties are interested, the fight will be done. Kovalev also said it and he also said that he respects Ward because he is a great champion and he beat their (Russia) best on the Olympics.

But I know this still means by some NSB users logic that Ward is scared of Kovalev and won't fight with him ever. And that he doesn't deserve respect and etc...

When the ones who know the parts of the talks (Duva, Kovalev) are optimistic and say that it will be done and they say that they respect Ward who is a great champion and then you have people on the internet who are pessimistic about the fight being made and disrespect Ward then you know that's just bitching and hating.

[King_]

Duva said that she talked baboutaWard vs Kovalev fight with RN and both parties are interested, the fight will be done. Kovalev also said it and he also said that he respects Ward because he is a great champion and he beat their (Russia) best on the Olympics.

But I know this still means by some NSB users logic that Ward is scared of Kovalev and won't fight with him ever. And that he doesn't deserve respect and etc...

When the ones who know the parts of the talks (Duva, Kovalev) are optimistic and say that it will be done and they say that they respect Ward who is a great champion and then you have people on the internet who are pessimistic about the fight being made and disrespect Ward then you know that's just bitching and hating.

Ward never called out Kovalev.


Duva saying they've been talking is completely irrelevant here. That's Kovalevs promoter

[King_]

Like wise the most logical order for GGG is the winner of Canelo/Cotto then Ward.

This right here^^^^



It's what all the hypocrites seem to be ignoring......



Golovkin ducking doe, Ward isn't doe

[mick1303]

Clearly Ward and his team are not confident of moving up to 175 and facing Kovalev. Lets take a look at the facts:

Ward has no good opponents at 168- he came in at 172 in his last fight.

He continues to call out a 160lber who has a lineal title in his division to go after

He hasn't fought a good opponent in years

Kovalev has 3 titles and has been calling Ward out for some time now


Ward and his teams responses:

http://www.boxingscene.com/andre-war...en-what--78770
(Hmmm so Ward would be willing to move up for a PPV fight but NOT fight Kovalev because it's not PPV, but Golovkin gets crucified because he would move up for Chavez Jr and Froch but not the irrelevant BET fighter Ward?)





"Would you fight Kovalev?"

" I fought two of the best punchers in the world. Edison Miranda. Arthur Abraham. He got bricks in his glove. (keep in mind he also said Kovalev is just a media darling, yet now he has 3 titles and is clearly past the "media hype" stage. What gives, Andre? Gets asked about Kovalev, starts talking about Alan Green.

He fought two power punchers 5 years ago so he shouldn't have to fight one more in Kovalev doe





Now here's the key thing: Golovkin has unfinished business at 160. He can unify with Lemieux but the big one is he's waiting on a fight with the lineal champion Cotto/Canelo... A fight with Canelo has NO barriers. That's an HBO PPV fight. So why would move up to 168 fight the best SMW (a P4P fighter) in the world, then go back down and potentially lose out on that superfight? In fact he even said he WOULD take the fight and say f**k it- at 164. That's a fair enough trade off for the risk he would take in giving up his 160lb championship fight options.


NOW, lets look at Wards situation. 168 is a complete crock of ****, he has absolutely NO ELITE fighters to fight there. He just fought Edwin Rodriguez and Paul Smith. So what is he waiting for? He's just waiting around at 168 and content with fighting journeyman the rest of his career? Golovkin offered him a big fight at 164- he says nope, "I'm a SMW" (Keep in mind he said he would move down to 160 for Floyd Mayweather). So what's the next logical step? Move up to 175 and fight another P4P fighter/3 titlist champion......... Oh wait- Ward never fought at that weight, who knows how his body will react, etc. the SAME exact things are going on yet everybody on here is hanging on GGG for some reason.

Literally the same exact situations but NO ONE is calling out Ward who is calling out GGG- in fact this actually looks worse on Ward, due to the actual situations and each fighters circumstance that I mentioned above.


So what's with the Hypocrisy? It must come to the fact that people can't handle the fame and star treatment GGG is getting so they desperately want him to lose, with tunnel vision and fire in their eyes ignoring everything else that's going on, or the Ward situation by just locking into GGG and talking about nothing else.

The reason is on the surface. Cotto/Canelo crew finally got something to divert attention from the fact that their guys are ducking GGG. He is not from the next division from them, Canelo can't make 154, Cotto holds the belt at 160. But they finally have something else to talk about, so they went for it full force.

[mick1303]

You mean most GGG fans so their boy is safe?

Boxing fans want to see both fights.

Not all boxing fans. Just those that do not want to see Canelo-GGG.

[arraamis]

GGG Nation on full damage control

Yes they are!!!!

But what do you have to say about Ward and the hypocrisy of being in the same exact (and worse) situation?


This isn't about protecting GGG, it's about exposing Ward and the double standards going on.

You seem to dismiss the fact that Ward has been side-lined for almost two years with promotional disputes. And last I checked, Ward recently called Team GGG's bluff and stated publicly that he wants the fight now. Now all of a sudden, Team GGG wants a catch-weight of 164lbs, ignoring the fact that they were willing to fight Froch and Chavez Jr. at 168lbs. What's up with that???

If you want to expose hypocrisy and double-standards, start with Team GGG who seemingly want to talk about a Ward fight, but don't really want the fight to happen.

[Rich2123]

I would think that if you were going to jump into a new weight class, you wouldn't fight the best in that weight class first thing. I like both Ward and GGG. But if GGG should fight someone at 168 before Ward, and Ward should fight at light heavy (say Pascal) before Kovalev. Weight classes exist for a reason.

[mick1303]

Ward and Kov have proven themselves against top tier competition while GGG has not. Part of it is fighters avoiding GGG. Part of it is GGG's choice of opposition when he doesn't get the fight he wants.

The natural progression for Ward would be to fight GGG, win and then fight Kov.

Ward and GGG should be fighting next. Kov and Stevenson should have completed the purse bid and the winning bidder should be choosing the venue.

Anything else is GGG/Kov fans trying to manipulate the natural progression in the hopes GGG never has to fight Ward.

The natural progression for GGG would be - Lemeiux, Canelo, then Ward

[stuff jones]

Ward wants to pick on smaller guys because he knows he doesn't have the pop to keep good 175 lbers honest. So he calls out smaller dudes. Real brave dude.