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  • MrP4P
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    #121
    Originally posted by Foreign Soil
    Ward isn't in the position to pick and choose an order. He could fight Kovalev now just like GGG could fight Ward now. They're both stalling a weight jump.
    They want to fight GGG now to get it over with to then move up to fight Kovalev. They arent moving up to 175 to then move down to 168. This is pretty obvious to everyone but a few and Ward's team alluded or outright said it themselves if im not mistaken.

    Ward is absolutely in the position to pick this order, not sure what makes you think otherwise. Kovalev's side wants the fight, and if Ward moves up GGG nolonger has his big fight, while Ward heads into a legacy fight for the Light heavyweight title, GGG would still be in his mid 30s struggling for his first defining fight, trying to lure out weltwerweights


    Ward-Kovalev was never going to be for this year, they said it since the discussions began and Duva has already said they have plans for Kovalevs next fight already.
    Last edited by MrP4P; 07-22-2015, 01:56 PM.

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    • -MEGA-
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      #122
      Originally posted by Foreign Soil
      Thought Ward's the A side doe? If he's A side, he won't be fighting Kovalev at 175.
      Why not? Please explain your babble.

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      • Foreign Soil
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        #123
        Originally posted by -MEGA-
        Wards in prime position to pick and choose and that's just what he's doing. Meanwhile GGG doesn't even have a say in his own division
        They're both picking and choosing. Neither have the pull to call the shots when facing a top bill. Both failed to get their Chavez Jr matchup, because neither are "A side".

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        • sicko
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          #124
          I like how Ward team does business though, they get on the PHONE WITH PROMOTERS and trying to hash out deals, they don't just talk tough in front of Boxing Media but then don't even attempt to make a fight!

          I knew 164 wasn't going to happen, that was a BS request from GGG Team. If you're willing to fight Froch and Chavez Jr at 168, why not Ward at 168? That don't even make sense! Even on a recent interview, again I know his English is not great but in that Interview he said 164 for Ward but then also said he would come up to 168 for big fight? Ward vs GGG is not a big fight? Is that going to be the excuse people run with that "Nobody Wants To See Ward vs GGG"?

          Why not just gracefully bow out and say, "Look, I'm Just Not Ready For Ward Right Now, Let Me Clean Up At 160 Then I Hope To Fight Ward In The Future When I'm Ready To Move Up!". Why is that so hard to do? PRIDE?

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          • -PBP-
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            #125
            Originally posted by mezoomozaa
            Boxing-wise, Mayweather may be an all-time great. I think he is one of the best 50 boxers ever. He is behind Pacquaio though.

            Revenue-wise, he is the second best after Tyson.

            World-fame-wise, he isn't even in top-50 list.

            And in delusional wise, mezoomozaa is #1

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              #126
              Originally posted by Rip Chudd
              The funny thing is Ward said the Kov fight would happen. Kovalev in an article on this site (it was either today or yesterday) said he knows the Ward fight will happen. Neither is rushing it, but GGG stans(I won't say his fans, cause they seem reasonable) want Ward to fight Kov first cause they want to see him beat at 175 and stay there.
              I know. Ward already gave his plan of attack. These guys just need to get with the program.

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              • Fetta
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                #127
                Originally posted by SilverMiles
                What else could it be, the fight is there. Why is he worrying about the offer made to Froch and Chavez Jr. He needs to worry about himself and what's on his table

                I don't care for the catch weight but I also don't believe GGG has to move up to 168. He's a small middleweight.

                But if Ward is so insistent ( which I don't think he is) then take it at 164lbs or STFU.

                But we all know why he doesn't accept the deal because part of his confidence in beating GGG is to get him to fight at a new weight class against a guy who isn't above breaking the rules.
                So what youre saying is GGG was gonna move up to full 168 for Chavez and Froch but for Ward he wont and thats Ward looking for all the advantages?

                And yes i agree worry about whats on table and for GGG, who is 33/34 and has yet to fight elite, its there. But I forgot GGG wanting 164 is Ward wanting advantages

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                • Foreign Soil
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by MrP4P
                  They want to fight GGG now to get it over with to then move up to fight Kovalev. They arent moving up to 175 to then move down to 168. This is pretty obvious to everyone but a few and Ward's team alluded or outright said it themselves if im not mistaken.

                  Ward-Kovalev was never going to be for this year, they said it since the discussions began and Duva has already said they have plans for Kovalevs next fight already.
                  Isn't that the same exact thing GGG is doing for Canelo?

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                  • elishua F
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                    #129
                    like i been saying since day , triple bum is all hype.. hes the new jeff lacy. nothing but an HBO hype train.. a one dimensional bum. a resume full of trash. . ward would wipe his a$$ clean with this chump.

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                    • Barcham
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                      #130
                      Originally posted by SplitSecond
                      When did Golovkin say this? Or are your purposefully omitting "big Pay-Per-View fight?

                      These two should meet at 166.
                      GGG said that when he first came to the US and before he had even had one fight. It was a statement to get some publicity and interest going in a fighter new to the US boxing scene. Later on, that statement was amended to state that he would move to another division only for a PPV fight.

                      Why 166? 164 is directly between 160 and 168 and as there would be no titles on the line, it would make perfect sense.

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