Comments Thread For: Andre Ward-Gennady Golovkin Roadblocked Over Weight

[Barcham]

That's because winning the super six as an underdog 5 years ago still eclipses anything GGG has ever done! What don't you get about that?

Whether or not GGG unifies 160 means absolutely **** all in hindsight. He's supposed too. He's the most dominant figure there. He should grab ahold of his baby nuts and man the **** up. Fight the next best fighter up at his weight class. After all, he's the one that claimed he could do it.

IT WAS FIVE YEARS AGO!!! What do you not understand about that? Do we still talk about who won the Superbowl 5 years ago? Or the World Series? Or the Stanley Cup? Or any other sports championship? It's ancient history!!!

[hitking]

It doesn't matter what is important to you or not. Money is important in the fight game and like it or not, it is a large part of why fights do or do not get made. I do not see Ward as an important figure in the fight game at this time. He was once, immediately after the Super Six tournament ended. But that was four years ago and he has fought exactly three times since then, not once against a solid contender, twice against drained fighters and recently against an out of shape, untrained, empty, rusty tomato can. Ward's status in the sport is at an all time low.

Lemieux holds a MW title and GGG wants to unify all the titles in his division. This makes a fight with him much more important to the sport than a fight with Ward. You don't like it? Tough shit! Don't watch his fights.

So in your world, fighting a bum like Lemieux. Who has been KTFO by a GGG KO victim, who was a fringe contender at his peak. And beaten by another past-his-prime journeyman, who was a fringe contender at his best. Is more important than fighting a guy that is obe of the unquestioned 2-3 best fighters in the world. You sir have reached an all-time low. And on a site full of irrational, delusional d1ck riders, you stand out. I'm impressed. You should be proud.

[ИATAS]

Hopkins was over 40 and jumped to 175 to become the lineal light heavyweight champ. This is a guy who made 154 as a middleweight as well. At almost 50 he stepped in the ring with Kovalev, which Adonis is too ***** to do

When people talk about the best middleweights of all time 50 years from now, Hopkins name will be one of the first mentioned. Nobody will talk about GGG, because he was too ***** to step up and become an ATG. Nobody will even remember who GGG was.

When people talk about Hopkins as being one of the best middleweights, his light heavyweight fights don't apply.

Hopkins moved up to 175 because he lost twice to Taylor and literally nothing else was left for him at 160, where he spent almost 15 years fighting at. Hopkins wanted to redeem those losses, he wanted a legacy fight. He also said it was very hard for him to make 160 towards the end, he is 6'1 and obviously had the body frame to move up (look how muscular he was against Tarver).

As I've said before, Hopkins and Golovkin have extremely similar careers so far. Hopkins for years was avoided by the other title holders (mainly because of Don King) and Hopkins was forced to grind it out for YEARS fighting the best available opponents to him. Likewise, the other title holders have not been willing to get in the ring with Golovkin and he's been forced to fight the best guys available (typically top ten guys just like Hopkins). Eventually, at the age of 36, Hopkins finally got a unification fight against Holmes and then following a unification and big fight against Trinidad. Likewise, Golovkin is on the verge of getting a unification against Lemieux and hopefully followed by another unification and big fight against Canelo. Hopkins had a total of 20 title defenses, Golovkin is already at around 14. At the time, people said Hopkins should move up in weight, go to 168/175 and fight bigger names. People even accused Hopkins of ducking the Roy Jones rematch, a fight that Hopkins would have needed to move up in weight. But Hopkins stayed disciplined and eventually the big fights came to him. Same is being said about Golovkin. The patience and hard work paid off for Hopkins and it can for Golovkin as well. I do believe Golovkin will move up in weight sooner than Hopkins did though.

Very, very similar.

[aboutfkntime]

You may not give a rat's ass cheek about the money, because you won't be getting any of it. And you won't be taking any punches in the ring, or risking your career if you make the wrong decision.

Lemieux isn't a complete and total bum, by any stretch of those words. He is a world champion, with an exciting style, a bit of charisma and a lot of fans in Canada.

He isn't as good as Ward, but beating him would raise GGG's profile and bring him another world title belt, as well as more money than he would get for fighting Ward right now.

But Lemieux is not known AT ALL.

And Lemieux is not a world-class fighter.

How the fcuk would Lemieux be a better win than Ward ?

[kafkod]

That's because winning the super six as an underdog 5 years ago still eclipses anything GGG has ever done! What don't you get about that?

Whether or not GGG unifies 160 means absolutely **** all in hindsight. He's supposed too. He's the most dominant figure there. He should grab ahold of his baby nuts and man the **** up. Fight the next best fighter up at his weight class. After all, he's the one that claimed he could do it.

Are you crazy?

[aboutfkntime]

IT WAS FIVE YEARS AGO!!! What do you not understand about that? Do we still talk about who won the Superbowl 5 years ago? Or the World Series? Or the Stanley Cup? Or any other sports championship? It's ancient history!!!

Ancient history, resume, legacy..... whatever, call it what you like !

What does Golovkins ancient history show..... ?

[Queen_Leia]

when people talk about hopkins as being one of the best middleweights, his light heavyweight fights don't apply.

Hopkins moved up to 175 because he lost twice to taylor and literally nothing else was left for him at 160, where he spent almost 15 years fighting at. Hopkins wanted to redeem those losses, he wanted a legacy fight. He also said it was very hard for him to make 160 towards the end, he is 6'1 and obviously had the body frame to move up (look how muscular he was against tarver).

As i've said before, hopkins and golovkin have extremely similar careers so far. Hopkins for years was avoided by the other title holders (mainly because of don king) and hopkins was forced to grind it out for years fighting the best available opponents to him. Likewise, the other title holders have not been willing to get in the ring with golovkin and he's been forced to fight the best guys available (typically top ten guys just like hopkins). Eventually, at the age of 36, hopkins finally got a unification fight against holmes and then following a unification and big fight against trinidad. Likewise, golovkin is on the verge of getting a unification against lemieux and hopefully followed by another unification and big fight against canelo. Hopkins had a total of 20 title defenses, golovkin is already at around 14. At the time, people said hopkins should move up in weight, go to 168/175 and fight bigger names. People even accused hopkins of ducking the roy jones rematch, a fight that hopkins would have needed to move up in weight. But hopkins stayed disciplined and eventually the big fights came to him. Same is being said about golovkin. The patience and hard work paid off for hopkins and it can for golovkin as well. I do believe golovkin will move up in weight sooner than hopkins did though.

Very, very similar.

maaannn, stfu!!!!

[yoshik]

All the critics of GGG

All the critics of GGG...are mainly one culture. Guess which one?

[mike1010011]

But Lemieux is not known AT ALL.

And Lemieux is not a world-class fighter.

How the fcuk would Lemieux be a better win than Ward ?

Actually,lemieux has more of a following in Canada alone,than ward has in the entire world. Lemieux can sell ppv in Canada,ward can't sell ppv in his mom's house.

[hitking]

You may not give a rat's ass cheek about the money, because you won't be getting any of it. And you won't be taking any punches in the ring, or risking your career if you make the wrong decision.

Lemieux isn't a complete and total bum, by any stretch of those words. He is a world champion, with an exciting style, a bit of charisma and a lot of fans in Canada.

He isn't as good as Ward, but beating him would raise GGG's profile and bring him another world title belt, as well as more money than he would get for fighting Ward right now.

Dude stop yourself. Lemieux is a total f.uck'n bum that has a belt that Oscar bought him. That was available because Jermain Taylor is a complete nutjob that shouldn't be fighting anyway.