Comments Thread For: Lomachenko Rejects Rehydration Clause For Rigondeaux

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Stop deflecting. Loma stated he only wants to fight FW belt holders and unify all the titles. Rigo is not a FW so calling him out contradicts this.

Yes it is, as is Loma V Walters, which more people wanted to see. True, if Rigo doesn't take the fight. Loma will be ok.

He will fight Vevetkya, which meets Loma's stated goal of only wanting to fight FW belt holders, but isn't the opponent most of us wanted, Walters, or Rigo, the guy we were all willing to accept instead of Walters.

Well he'd obviously fight Rigondeaux because it's a fight that a lot of people want to see. Rigondeaux would be coming up in weight and there'd be no risk of him failing to make the weight like there would be with Walters.

Most people wanted to see Walters in a unification at 126. Walters was unprofessional, failed to make weight and lost his title on the scales. If he wants the fight, then prove you can make 126 - simple.

[The Big Dunn]

Well he'd obviously fight Rigondeaux because it's a fight that a lot of people want to see. Rigondeaux would be coming up in weight and there'd be no risk of him failing to make the weight like there would be with Walters.

Most people wanted to see Walters in a unification at 126. Walters was unprofessional, failed to make weight and lost his title on the scales. If he wants the fight, then prove you can make 126 - simple.

Agreed, so make the fight, put in a clause that he must give away double the amount if he fails to make weight. You can never guarantee a fighter will make weight anyway so there is always some risk, however miniscule.

The bottom line is we as fans appear to be getting Loma/vevetkya, the fight we wanted the least out of the 3.

[-PBP-]

This is what we call "calling a kettle black". Rigo tops out at about 124-125 in the ring,and loma weighs in at 135-136,so that's a 10-12 lb difference. On the other hand Walters weighed in at 145 for his last fight, so he would only have 9-10 lbs on loma. Loma and his team have publicly come out and said that they wouldn't fight Walters because he's too big,and they wouldn't entertain a catchweights or a rehydration clause. So Walters would be to big for loma with a 9 lb weight advantage,but rigo is a coward for not agreeing to fight loma when he'd be outweighed by 10-12 lbs?

Top Rank backs Walters and won't stand for that ****. Rigo has no negotiating power so they can push him around and force him into any of the disadvantages they want. Walters is the younger, fresher, bigger fighter and the bigger puncher. Rigo is the older fighter, on the decline and less risky. A win over Rigo puts Loma high on the pound for pound list.

These are just the facts of the situation. The Rigo fight is attractive for those reasons while the Walters fight is not.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Agreed, so make the fight, put in a clause that he must give away double the amount if he fails to make weight. You can never guarantee a fighter will make weight anyway so there is always some risk, however miniscule.

Why should he have to do that? If Walters comes in overweight, then the fight would be cancelled and Lomachenko will have wasted an entire training camp.

Why should Lomachenko have to do this when he is the one playing by the rules?

Walters is the one who needs to prove he can make 126 again. Has he even said he can make it?

The bottom line is we as fans appear to be getting Loma/vevetkya, the fight we wanted the least out of the 3.

And we'll get Rigo vs some Japanese fisherman. Again....not Lomachenko's fault.

[The Big Dunn]

Why should he have to do that? If Walters comes in overweight, then the fight would be cancelled and Lomachenko will have wasted an entire training camp.

Why should Lomachenko have to do this when he is the one playing by the rules?

Walters is the one who needs to prove he can make 126 again. Has he even said he can make it?



And we'll get Rigo vs some Japanese fisherman. Again....not Lomachenko's fault.

How else would walters prove he can make 126 again unless a fight gets made at 126 and he makes the weight? If he makes a fight at 126 against someone else and makes weight, that still doesn't guarantee he will make 126 again as making weight is not something anyone, even Loma, can guarantee.

Loma doesn't have to do it, but it's a safeguard that he gets compensated if Walters doesn't. it also compensates Walters if Loma doesn't, which I do not think will happen.

LMFAO, who is blaming Loma for anything regarding Rigo?

[MDPopescu]

Who wants Rigo at 122? Let's check the Ring: Frampton, LSC, Quigg, Donaire... Does anyone want Rigo at 122?... With LSC-Donaire planned at 126?...
... Now Rigo has to go one division up with fighters who come to fight at 2-3-4 weight divisions north?... Rigo better calls Floyd, directly...

[Tom Cruise]

I haven't seen the quotes from his manager and I don't really care. Lomachenko has rejected a rehydration clause - something which is not the norm in boxing. I don't hold him at fault or call him a "primadonna" for abiding by the rules.

Rigondeaux is the one making demands that are out of the ordinary - that's being a primadonna.

If he doesn't want to fight at featherweight then don't. Stay at 122.

This is dumb as all hell.

So Lomachenko calls out Rigo for a fight. Rigos manager says ok but we want catchweight and RH clause (whoch they are well within their rights to ask for as part of negotiation). Lomas team says no catweight but RH clause is ok. Rigos team agree. Then Loma team asks for no RH clause and somehow Rigo is being a primadonna?

Loma's team asked for the fight and Rigos team have responded by negotiating like anyone would. Or should Rigo just bendover and accept every demand regardless just because he is the B-Side?

Hyde's job is to get the best deal he can for his fighter. For the record Rigo has said that he doesnt care if Lomachenko weighs in at 150 on fight night, but that doesnt stop Rigo's manager from trying to look out for his best interests. Loma's team agreed at first and are now moving the goalposts, we'll see if Rigo's team are willing to continue negotiating. Hopefully they will.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

How else would walters prove he can make 126 again unless a fight gets made at 126 and he makes the weight? If he makes a fight at 126 against someone else and makes weight, that still doesn't guarantee he will make 126 again as making weight is not something anyone, even Loma, can guarantee.

Loma doesn't have to do it, but it's a safeguard that he gets compensated if Walters doesn't. it also compensates Walters if Loma doesn't, which I do not think will happen.

LMFAO, who is blaming Loma for anything regarding Rigo?

You keep referring to Lomachenko as being in the wrong for some reason when he is playing everything by the book.

Walters and Rigondeaux are the ones who are going off script.

[Banderivets]

Agreed, so make the fight, put in a clause that he must give away double the amount if he fails to make weight. You can never guarantee a fighter will make weight anyway so there is always some risk, however miniscule.

The bottom line is we as fans appear to be getting Loma/vevetkya, the fight we wanted the least out of the 3.

How does these things usually work? Contracts I mean for missing weight. Could they simply not fight Walters if he comes in overweight and collect the money without fighting him? Still a waist of training camp if that happened.

Problem with Loma is that he needs to fight more. He took a 6 months break between his last two fights...thats terrible. He fought in December 2014, and didn't fight till May 2015, this is too much for a young guy with 5bouts.

If he fought more he could afford to skip a fight if the opponent didn't make weight, or just have a last minute stand in to replace a potentially overweight Walters.

An overweight Walters is an unnecessary risk at this point in his career.

But he should make a Walters fight and refuse to fight him if he didn't make weight, just make sure there is a last minute standin from the top 20 to practice on.....if that is at all possible.

As see it like this now. They need to make the Walters fight at 126.

Loma doesn't really need Rigo who has no bargaining power and no one in Rigos division wants to fight him, so it's in Rigo to move up in weight and get this fight if he wants it. But I don't blame either guy from not wanting to change weight.

Maybe, just maybe all three of these guys see each other as too much of a risk and each wants to have the other at what they are most comfortable at. And if that is the case we'll just get status quo.

[Dirk Diggler UK]

This is dumb as all hell.

So Lomachenko calls out Rigo for a fight. Rigos manager says ok but we want catchweight and RH clause (whoch they are well within their rights to ask for as part of negotiation). Lomas team says no catweight but RH clause is ok. Rigos team agree. Then Loma team asks for no RH clause and somehow Rigo is being a primadonna?

Loma's team asked for the fight and Rigos team have responded by negotiating like anyone would. Or should Rigo just bendover and accept every demand regardless just because he is the B-Side?

Hyde's job is to get the best deal he can for his fighter. For the record Rigo has said that he doesnt care if Lomachenko weighs in at 150 on fight night, but that doesnt stop Rigo's manager from trying to look out for his best interests. Loma's team agreed at first and are now moving the goalposts, we'll see if Rigo's team are willing to continue negotiating. Hopefully they will.

I haven't seen the quotes from Lomachenko's team where they agreed to a rehydration clause.

Regardless, the fighter said no and he is well within his rights to say no. He is under no obligation to agree to it.

Rigondeaux's team are the ones asking for silly stipulations. Just fight the man at his weight or stay at 122 and try to fight someone there.