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  • GhostBlade
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    #131
    GGG will be able to take Ward's best punch without any problems, but can Ward take GGG's punches for 12 rounds without any problems? I'm taking GGG in this one because I don't see how Ward can keep GGG away for all 12 rounds without getting caught and stopped. GGG is better than anyone Ward has faced including Froch. I also can't see Ward beating Kovalev.

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    • aldo5408
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      #132
      Originally posted by GhostBlade
      GGG will be able to take Ward's best punch without any problems, but can Ward take GGG's punches for 12 rounds without any problems? I'm taking GGG in this one because I don't see how Ward can keep GGG away for all 12 rounds without getting caught and stopped. GGG is better than anyone Ward has faced including Froch. I also can't see Ward beating Kovalev.
      He will take them easy he took Froch and Kessler shots. Froch has alot of power

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      • MoneyMayFan
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        #133
        Originally posted by Chuckguy
        Why avoid it? If he loses it will be to a p4p top 2 level fighter no shame in that
        Fighters get more respect fighing cab drivers these days. You got the casuals who think hes a animal but he hasnt beat anybody. Once he loses he will become a bum/hype job to casuals and alot of people here. Its a great business move to avoid ward and fight cotto /canelo .

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        • Beater_of_ass
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          #134
          GGG doesn't want it.

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          • CANELOLUJAH
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            #135
            pssh no believes that ****,

            they say they want it but their actions say somehting else.

            They gonna kill it in negations typical coward move.

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            • Eastcoast
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              #136
              Originally posted by Scipio2009
              Why is there this assumption that Ward re-hydrates a massive amount of weight? Ward only went up to 176 for the Dawson fight, and I doubt that he went up all that high after the Paul Smith weigh-in either (Being 173.5lbs with three weeks to the fight, I doubt that Ward put on a ton of weigt there either).

              Beyond that, Golovkin himself walks into the ring for his own middleweight fights in the low 170s, so I doubt that giving his own camp an extra thing to worry about is to his advantage.
              What assumption? Ward just fought at 172 and is talking about maybe going up to 175. A rehydration clause would be an insurance policy to prevent Ward from coming in excessively large in a fight where he intends to wrestle his smaller opponent.


              Ward is the B-side in terms of popularity and options. Ward doesn't bring in revenue from the UK or Mexico like Froch or Chavez. He just pulled 300k viewers on free-tv for his last fight. His promoters filled the arena with comp'd seats. Financially he brings nothing to the table, and now he expects Golovkin to give up the size advantage and move up to fight him? K2 can simply wait out Ward's disillusioned ego as he continues to lose Roc Nation millions of dollars per fight.

              Golovkin can stay at 160 and continue to make millions with fights against N'Dam, Lee, & Eubank while he awaits big money fights against Alvarez & Lemieux. He can fight internationally as well as he has a global fanbase and is willing to travel.

              In comparison Andre Ward has no real options within his own weight class. Most of the fighters are in the PBC, the few others (Groves, Abraham) are international and make more money in their country than what Ward could offer. If Ward really wanted to fight at 175, he would've by now. He rejected a lucrative offer to face WBC champ Adonis Stevenson at 168 & 175. He faces the same economic restrictions to a Kovalev fight that he would a Golovkin fight. Kovalev will soon be a clear A-side to Ward at the negotiations table as he has he has a more appealing style to get fans to watch him and also has options of being willing to fight in Canada as well as Europe & Russia.

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              • Shpacman
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                #137
                Originally posted by Redd Foxx
                He's so overrated based on beating faded guys. Ward fought peak guys at 168 and handled them.
                Do you realize that Kovalev would knock out all fighters from Ward's opposition? Seriously, I can't think up of any boxer from Ward's opposition that could finish fight with Kovalev on his feet.

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                • Craveman
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Cutthroat
                  Triple G should avoid this fight at all costs, Ward is too much for him. Ward by TKO, he'll land at will, GGG simply isn't athletic enough to compete with Ward.
                  What you're trying to say is Ward is so good he shouldn't even bother fighting Golovkin?

                  That's like saying Mayweather shouldn't fight Pacquiao, we all knew Mayweather would beat Pacquiao.

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                  • Craveman
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by Eastcoast
                    What assumption? Ward just fought at 172 and is talking about maybe going up to 175. A rehydration clause would be an insurance policy to prevent Ward from coming in excessively large in a fight where he intends to wrestle his smaller opponent.


                    Ward is the B-side in terms of popularity and options. Ward doesn't bring in revenue from the UK or Mexico like Froch or Chavez. He just pulled 300k viewers on free-tv for his last fight. His promoters filled the arena with comp'd seats. Financially he brings nothing to the table, and now he expects Golovkin to give up the size advantage and move up to fight him? K2 can simply wait out Ward's disillusioned ego as he continues to lose Roc Nation millions of dollars per fight.

                    Golovkin can stay at 160 and continue to make millions with fights against N'Dam, Lee, & Eubank while he awaits big money fights against Alvarez & Lemieux. He can fight internationally as well as he has a global fanbase and is willing to travel.

                    In comparison Andre Ward has no real options within his own weight class. Most of the fighters are in the PBC, the few others (Groves, Abraham) are international and make more money in their country than what Ward could offer. If Ward really wanted to fight at 175, he would've by now. He rejected a lucrative offer to face WBC champ Adonis Stevenson at 168 & 175. He faces the same economic restrictions to a Kovalev fight that he would a Golovkin fight. Kovalev will soon be a clear A-side to Ward at the negotiations table as he has he has a more appealing style to get fans to watch him and also has options of being willing to fight in Canada as well as Europe & Russia.
                    A side, B side, F side. Just make the fight happen. Lately boxers use their powers to only not have leverage over financial terms but also use it to impose catchweight.

                    I am getting sick of it. I am a fan of Golovkin and Ward, and I think the fight should be settled at the limit of super middleweight. This... whole catchweight becoming the norm like its the era of catchweight.

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                    • xhiddenx87
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                      #140
                      Well finally, I was hoping Team Ward to respond GGG's offer.

                      Lets see if they reach an agreement, I hope so.

                      War GGG&Ward

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