Sam Watson Confirms 3 Fighters In Mayweather Sweepstakes

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  • Deevel916
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    #61
    Originally posted by The Big Dunn
    Then why aren't you and Deevel916 "boxing fans" when there are mismatches not involving Haymon fighters like Manny/Algieri, Kov/ Caparello, Kirkland/ canelo, GGG/Monroe and other "on paper" mismatches?
    You're comparing stay busy matches and matches where guys like GGG and Kov fought who they fought because there was no one else available or willing to fight them.

    Pac fought Algieri right after beating Bradley and before taking on Floyd.

    Canelo fought Kirkland because Cotto pretty much stepped away from the fight and is now in line to face Cotto at the end of the year.

    Floyd has decent available opposition but if he chooses to fight Berto its because he chose not to fight a better caliber opponent. Not because nobody else was willing or unavailable.
    Last edited by Deevel916; 07-15-2015, 11:29 AM.

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      #62
      Originally posted by Deevel916
      You're comparing stay busy matches and matches where guys like GGG and Kov fought who they fought because there was no one else available or willing to fight them.

      Pac fought Algieri right after beating Bradley and before taking on Floyd.

      Canelo fought Kirkland because Cotto pretty much stepped away from the fight and is now in line to face Cotto at the end of the year.

      Floyd has decent available opposition but if he chooses to fight Berto its because he chose not to fight a better caliber opponent. Not because nobody else was willing or available.
      Stop justifying mismatches for only one network dude and this "uhh no one to fight" BS. There are always other people to fight especially for stars who yield high purses.

      When its a fighter you like on HBO, you simply watch. If its Floyd or another Haymon affiliated boxer on PBC, you break out these ridiculous pre fight standards to judge it by.

      Why a "boxing fan" would do that is utterly incomprehensible.

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        #63
        Originally posted by Deevel916
        You're comparing stay busy matches and matches where guys like GGG and Kov fought who they fought because there was no one else available or willing to fight them.

        Pac fought Algieri right after beating Bradley and before taking on Floyd.

        Canelo fought Kirkland because Cotto pretty much stepped away from the fight and is now in line to face Cotto at the end of the year.

        Floyd has decent available opposition but if he chooses to fight Berto its because he chose not to fight a better caliber opponent. Not because nobody else was willing or available.
        SMH...The worst kind of boxing fan.

        Defend BS from fighters you like and criticize it for the fighters you hate. GTFOH.

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        • Jc8804
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          #64
          So its a hunter stable fighter??

          Floyd wont announce till 4 weeks out.
          he will say A side baby ,A side

          Tmt fans will say yupp thats a Boss
          lmfao

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            #65
            Wow, unbelievable that this boring fraud still have the nerve to rip off fans again with his survival mode of fighting. Man this guy is no different from one-dimensional Lara. Both don't have inside game. Except that Lara doesn't clinch, he runs. The other guy use every trick in his arsenal to survive including the ref's aid.

            People need to accept the fact that gone are the SRL vs Hearns type of fights my grandpa enjoyed watching. They are now replaced with extremely hyped one-dimensional fighters who runs, clinches, survive, and fans are supposed to say, he's slick doe. Hehe..

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              #66
              Originally posted by Cgarcia
              Wow, unbelievable that this boring fraud still have the nerve to rip off fans again with his survival mode of fighting. Man this guy is no different from one-dimensional Lara. Both don't have inside game. Except that Lara doesn't clinch, he runs. The other guy use every trick in his arsenal to survive including the ref's aid.

              People need to accept the fact that gone are the SRL vs Hearns type of fights my grandpa enjoyed watching. They are now replaced with extremely hyped one-dimensional fighters who runs, clinches, survive, and fans are supposed to say, he's slick doe. Hehe..
              Manny lost, accept it and move on.

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              • Deevel916
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                #67
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                Stop justifying mismatches for only one network dude and this "uhh no one to fight" BS. There are always other people to fight especially for stars who yield high purses.

                When its a fighter you like on HBO, you simply watch. If its Floyd or another Haymon affiliated boxer on PBC, you break out these ridiculous pre fight standards to judge it by.

                Why a "boxing fan" would do that is utterly incomprehensible.
                My point is, Floyd is in a position that neither GGG or Kov is yet in. Floyd can choose to fight whomever he wants. Give me the names of the opponents that both GGG and Kov should have fought instead of the guys they did fight.

                Kov was set to fight Stevenson until Haymon stepped in and killed the fight. Kov went on and fought the only other 2 worthy opponents in Pascal and Hopkins.

                GGG has been wrecking anyone willing to fight him and has been calling out the likes of Cotto and Canelo and will hopefully get the winner. I would like to see him in with Ward but Ward JUST came back on to the scene and are both playing hardball with the weight. Hopefully they can come to a resolution and get it on.

                Pac has one of the most solid resumes and lists of opponents of this era.

                Now Floyd has the option of fighting the likes of Khan, Porter, Thurman, Brook....Yet the rumor is he's going to fight Berto. All this means is that he chose to fight a lesser caliber fighter if he indeed takes on Berto and according to you, "you're fine with that"

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  Manny lost, accept it and move on.
                  He lost according to who and which place? He lost to Bradley in the first fight didn't he? Lara would have been awarded the Canelo fight had he had the same level of hype as the fraud. Don't you think so? Hehe...

                  Don't know why people still want to see this boring survivalist fight. Hehe.. He doesn't fight. He just want to survive. And he's getting truckloads of money out of it and Lara don't. Both are one-dimensional.
                  Last edited by maguirre; 07-15-2015, 11:51 AM.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Deevel916
                    My point is, Floyd is in a position that neither GGG or Kov is yet in. Floyd can choose to fight whomever he wants. Give me the names of the opponents that both GGG and Kov should have fought instead of the guys they did fight.

                    Kov was set to fight Stevenson until Haymon stepped in and killed the fight. Kov went on and fought the only other 2 worthy opponents in Pascal and Hopkins.

                    GGG has been wrecking anyone willing to fight him and has been calling out the likes of Cotto and Canelo and will hopefully get the winner. I would like to see him in with Ward but Ward JUST came back on to the scene and are both playing hardball with the weight. Hopefully they can come to a resolution and get it on.

                    Pac has one of the most solid resumes and lists of opponents of this era.

                    Now Floyd has the option of fighting the likes of Khan, Porter, Thurman, Brook....Yet the rumor is he's going to fight Berto. All this means is that he chose to fight a lesser caliber fighter if he indeed takes on Berto and according to you, "you're fine with that"
                    More deflecting. Kov/Caparello was a bogus fight. You didn't criticize it at all because you knew Kov was going to get an easy KO. GGG has other options besides Monroe. You saw an easy win so, ok.

                    Just because they didn't get the primary opponent they wanted or called out doesn't mean there was no quality opponent available or that they had to fight garbage. They do not have to be in Floyd's position to not fight garbage.

                    Floyd has a better resume, so if you are being serious then you should care less if he fights Berto just as you did about Algieiri.

                    Be the boxing fan you claim to be. When you see an on paper mismatch designed to keep a fighter busy and not risk a future payday, criticize it EVERY TIME, not just Haymon affiliated fighters that do it.

                    It's like you are a fan of HBO Boxing. If so, just be honest about it.

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Cgarcia
                      He lost according to who and which place? He lost to Bradley in the first fight didn't he? Lara would have been awarded the Canelo fight had he had the same level of hype as the fraud. Don't you think so? Hehe...

                      Don't know why people still want to see this boring survivalist fight. Hehe.. He doesn't fight. He just want to survive. And he's getting truckloads of money out of it and Lara don't. Both are one-dimensional.
                      He lost to Floyd in Vegas according to almost every rational human being that watched the fight.

                      Manny wasn't good enough to beat Floyd despite getting robbed IMO in the 1st Bradley fight.

                      Accept it, move on.

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