Official Mayweather Vs Berto master thread.

[STAX ON DECK]

Do you want to be liked? It doesn't matter.

Aside from all the BS, Floyd has life figured out. Introspective, philosophical people like me will get what I mean.

If this is his last fight, I am glad to have supported it. I bought all of his PPVs since DLH. It was fun to hate him but at the end of the day I can appreciate his figure/presence in the sport. Farewell, floyd. The hate stays inside the ring. Thanks for the memories and wish you happiness in life.

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[SalimShady1212]

I feel honoured to have been the host of the sticky thread for Mayweather's last fight

[SweetPbfAli]

During the fight In attendance I was very unimpressed. Even shaking my head every now and again at the complete lack of offense on Floyd's part. I thought maybe as I'm watching it in the arena it looks different than it does on TV so I rewatched it on TV today.

My thoughts haven't changed, Mayweather is clearly done as a fighter. He had a guy infront of him that 5 years ago he could have put an absolute beating on. Where was the jab for the body followed by the right upstairs? Where was the sweeping right hand? Counter uppercut against the ropes? Lead right hand and duck under? None of that was present. Even the left hook was seldomly used. And then the few rare instances he did let his hands go, he was very sloppy and Inaccurate. The pull counter wasn't working either.

Berto trapped him in the ropes several times. He couldn't even slip away, no check left hooks off the ropes (like he used against Pacquaio)

He threw 400 punches, most of which were jabs.

To me it's very clear the offensive side of his game is competely done. Finished. Shot. He's still sharp defensively but that's it. His offense consists of jabs and an occasional right.

In all honesty it was depressing for me ringside, seeing a shell of Mayweather. I was expecting a vintage Floyd against a Berto level opponent, an offensive masterclass for his last fight but instead I got the opposite.

It's a good job it was Berto in there Saturday. I don't see that version of Maweather lasting much longer.

It couldn't be a more perfect indicator to retire. I really hope he stays retired.

You have to consider the opponent. The check left hook then pivot was so easy against Manny because Manny would (and always has) over commits on his attacks, especially with his left so Floyd would use the hook as well as Manny's own momentum against him and cause him to reset while landing a scoring blow and reestablishing distance. With Berto, the prospect of getting hit with a right while pivoting out was slightly higher because of how Berto throws that punch plus Floyd knows Berto doesn't on the inside well at all to he was more than okay being on the ropes. Look at the gif someone on here has of Floyd landing a 2 punch combo, slipping off the ropes and then landing a left hook counter afterwards. He could have done that more but didn't need to.


Other than that, I agree he no longer has the offense but again, he's 38 years old. As long as he's aware of his limitations at this point, that's all that matters and he should bow out gracefully and let the young guns have it from here.

[Rath]

was Floyd dehydrated @146 lbs. against Berto?

[The Big Dunn]

was Floyd dehydrated @146 lbs. against Berto?

Whether he was or wasn't in September 2015 has no bearing on whether he was when he got the IV in May 2015 before the Manny fight.

[Rath]

Whether he was or wasn't in September 2015 has no bearing on whether he was when he got the IV in May 2015 before the Manny fight.

a simple yes or no would suffice Dunn

[Slip Stream]

Watching the buildup to the fight and then the fight itself, I can honestly say it was amazingly anticlimactic. I'm not sure why Floyd expected fans to pay for this, or even entertain Berto as a credible opponent? I could guess at his motivations, and have but it still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth. Andre Berto should never have been anywhere around the ring with Mayweather, he was so absolutely outclassed. Everyone knew what was going to happen when the fight was announced and it didn't fail to live down to the expectations.

Floyd Mayweather is an all-time great in my mind, but not a class act.

[IronDanHamza]

You have to consider the opponent. The check left hook then pivot was so easy against Manny because Manny would (and always has) over commits on his attacks, especially with his left so Floyd would use the hook as well as Manny's own momentum against him and cause him to reset while landing a scoring blow and reestablishing distance. With Berto, the prospect of getting hit with a right while pivoting out was slightly higher because of how Berto throws that punch plus Floyd knows Berto doesn't on the inside well at all to he was more than okay being on the ropes. Look at the gif someone on here has of Floyd landing a 2 punch combo, slipping off the ropes and then landing a left hook counter afterwards. He could have done that more but didn't need to.


Other than that, I agree he no longer has the offense but again, he's 38 years old. As long as he's aware of his limitations at this point, that's all that matters and he should bow out gracefully and let the young guns have it from here.

That's true much like Ortiz he used it very well against him also just in that first 4 rounds.

But on the same token he used it well against Cotto for example (not saying he fights like Berto obviously) I just saw times where he could easily have used it and would have been a lot more effective but instead he just held or went back to the ropes. Obviously he's not going to check hook every time but I don't recall him using it at all the enitre fight.

I agree though he's 38 and a 20 year pro and obviously well into decline I don't dispute that but to me I've never seen him look worse from an offensive standpoint.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Berto did it better against Floyd than Cotto, canelo or Maidana in second fight.

[Outworn]

Unsticky this and stick the Cotto/Canelo thread please. Mayweather is now history.