Comments Thread For: PBC on ESPN Averages 799K Viewers, Peaks at 1.1 Million

[AddiX]

forrest was considered unknown by the time he won his first world title, he hadn't beat the kind of guys that made the WW division exciting in his time until that fight with mosley, no one was really clinging to him especially considering the guys at WW around his time were Trinidad Quartey DLH Mosely and etc. and i only reached back to show you the depth to where haymon entered the market and one of the first fighters he put his stock behind that ended up being successful. if haymon fails, he fails, point blank, but wishing on failure is setting yourself up for failure. truthfully I'm into all these guys being good and competing bc well all get good fights. picking the lesser evil is just gonna tear this sport apart.

I'm not rooting against PBC, but I'm still going to be real about, you can't spend millions of dollars on events that lose lots of money, and NOT get big ratings out of it.

If the ratings don't go up, than this whole plan is failing, and so is PBC.

[bigdunny1]

lol. If you simply follow the profile of the commercials during the PBC broadcasts from the initial Thurman-Guerrero show through Thurman-Collazo, you'd know that your statement was false on it's face.

To then try and act as if the money shakedown by Top Rank and Golden Boy actually points to a tangible case makes you look even sillier.

If you're going to hate, try and base the hate on something actually occurring.

What significant TV sponsor has PBC added? They had Corona from day one who slaps their name on the ring and because of that PBC airs their commericals for free. Who else have they added? I see nothing but promos for the next PBC show and depending what area you live in and what cable provider instead of PBC promos you get local tv promos provided by the cable provider. So if you live in Dakota, Washington you get to see a tv add for Mike's Used TV appliances in Dakota. And you can call the lawsuit a shakedown all you want but we talking 2 separate 100 Mil plus lawsuits on top of the millions they are already losing each event they put on. That has to be a major concern for any investors

[sicko]

PBC is missing something important that UFC has. Excitement.

When Buffer yells, "IT'S TIIIIIIIIIIIME!!!" you pretty much know it's about to go down. Good, bad, or indifferent, UFC does consistently produce some scintillating action. I think that was part of the appeal. With the light gloves, kicks, and submissions, the audience is pretty much assured that someone is gonna go hurt.

If a fighter stinks it up in UFC, Dana White will call the guy out or make sure he isnt featured as prominently. There are consequences to playing it safe all the time.

UFC has a younger audience and better fans...PERIOD! Yes UFC Fans>Boxing Fans. Go to a MMA Forum then comeback to a Boxing Forum...Depressing

[Mitchell Kane]

And yet that UFC PPV will probably sell 350K. Twitter is not a random sampling

The announced live gate was $7.2 million.

You sure you want to stick to that 350k number?

[youbeight]

I'm not rooting against PBC, but I'm still going to be real about, you can't spend millions of dollars on events that lose lots of money, and NOT get big ratings out of it.

If the ratings don't go up, than this whole plan is failing, and so is PBC.

you cant, but you obviously gotta let it somehow find its identity which is hasn't yet, they bought the time for 2 years on the majority of the networks, the networks got their money, lets see what they do. but if this spikes the interest to the sport where regulars are back into watching boxing along with hardcore fans, it'll spark tv deals, and if it doesnt, it'll fail on its own. the fighters are still gonna be fighting and guys are gonna keep signing. when fighters no longer feel the need to sign the product will disappear, it happened to don king infamously once guys felt signing to him did more harm than help despite king making big fights all the time.

[Ravens Fan]

UFC set the blueprint and PBC is doing the opposite.

What blueprint would that be the one where everything is shown on PPV?

[Ravens Fan]

UFC has a younger audience and better fans...PERIOD! Yes UFC Fans>Boxing Fans. Go to a MMA Forum then comeback to a Boxing Forum...Depressing

I went to one MMA event in AC and I will never go back. To much alcohol and testosterone flowing through the crowd and therefore they thought that they were part of the action.

[AddiX]

you cant, but you obviously gotta let it somehow find its identity which is hasn't yet, they bought the time for 2 years on the majority of the networks, the networks got their money, lets see what they do. but if this spikes the interest to the sport where regulars are back into watching boxing along with hardcore fans, it'll spark tv deals, and if it doesnt, it'll fail on its own. the fighters are still gonna be fighting and guys are gonna keep signing. when fighters no longer feel the need to sign the product will disappear, it happened to don king infamously once guys felt signing to him did more harm than help despite king making big fights all the time.

Not true at all, if PBC fails it's probably the last time you see boxing on network tv in your lifetime.

There's a lot more on the line than just PBC for boxing.

[Cuban Linx]

He probably shouldn't have scheduled the event the same day as the biggest UFC event of the year. Even if it concluded before the start of the McGregor fight, the UFC event was by far the biggest event of the weekend. Had he moved it to this weekend it may have had better numbers.

If the ratings don't improve I don't see Haymon just shutting the whole thing down. PBC is a great idea. I definitely think it belongs and it's good for the fans of the sport.

But the reality is that the fighter purses are going to get cut in half. The fighters are going to have to accept the fact that their purses are going to get cut in half in a year or two if this doesn't take off. They'll have to accept that fact for PBC to continue.

[AddiX]

The announced live gate was $7.2 million.

You sure you want to stick to that 350k number?

It def did more than 350k but it also was the most marketed event in UFC history. Even though it made a lot of noise, it was unprofitable.

UFC did this because of falling numbers and popularity, they needed a big event to re-establish the brand to fans, creditors, and investors.

Last year was a real bad year for UFC.