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  • BlakBread904
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    #51
    Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
    Yes Froch and Chavez Jr are larger, but less talented fighters. Plus they both would've been crazy money, worth going up to a weight you have no business in for a one off fight. Ward is larger and more talented, for comparative peanuts. We're not talking brain surgery here.



    A quick google search will prove this to be a lie. It might not stop you repeating it, but it just might stop me responding to you.
    Originally posted by bigjavi973
    so the larger froch & chavez jr at 168 but the smaller ward at 164??? HAHAHAHAHAHAHA those are called EXCUSES!!!

    Gotta drain ward in order to beat him cuz what??? "hes a better fighter thats why doe its ok for the cw doe" HAHAHAHAHA fuck outta here with that bullshit.

    Again, you said 128... was that the official weight he came in at the scales or is that his rehydration weight?
    Javi, i like how you decline to mention the money, as if money doesn't matter in the boxing game. I will ask you to stop being dense, step away from your biased agenda and be objective. Money matters in professional boxing.

    So, let me ask you this, Big Javi...If you were in GGG's shoes, you'd obviously fight Ward at 168, conceding negotiations to him as the A-side...right? because you're a warrior and tough guy...right?

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      #52
      Originally posted by BlakBread904
      Javi, i like how you decline to mention the money, as if money doesn't matter in the boxing game. I will ask you to stop being dense, step away from your biased agenda and be objective. Money matters in professional boxing.

      So, let me ask you this, Big Javi...If you were in GGG's shoes, you'd obviously fight Ward at 168, conceding negotiations to him as the A-side...right? because you're a warrior and tough guy...right?

      The money would be the same at 164, 168. Money isn't the issue Golovkins balls are.

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        #53
        Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
        The money would be the same at 164, 168. Money isn't the issue Golovkins balls are.
        you obviously DKSAB...this is prizefighting, money is always an issue....Froch/Chavez Jr were not coming down to 164...GGG was going up to 168 one time for a big money fight vs one of those two.

        Are you really saying that GGG/Ward (at any weight) would have made the same amount of money as GGG/Froch-or-Chavez Jr?


        Last edited by BlakBread904; 07-14-2015, 01:51 PM.

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          #54
          Originally posted by BlakBread904
          ....Froch/Chavez Jr were not coming down to 164...GGG was going up to 168 one time for a big money fight vs one of those two.

          Are you really saying that GGG/Ward (at any weight) brings the same amount of money as GGG/Froch-or-Chavez Jr?


          I'm saying the money to fight Ward is the same at 164 or 168. The only reason to want 164 is weaken Ward. Golovkin going back on his word of "no catchweights, i'll fight anyone between 154-168" because he's not the fighter his fans thought him to be. He's afraid of Ward.

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            #55
            Originally posted by bigjavi973
            Really??? Rigo is already 34 & the most he has weighed was 125 flat.
            Golovkin is already 33 years old man, he's not some young kid.

            Golovkin doesn't have to move up if he doesn't want to, he's clearly in a division that is best for him physically. It's not like the next weight class is only a few pounds away like in the tiny man weight classes, its an 8 pound difference. I don't like the catchweight talk myself though.

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              #56
              Originally posted by Isaac Clarke
              I'm saying the money to fight Ward is the same at 164 or 168. The only reason to want 164 is weaken Ward. Golovkin going back on his word of "no catchweights, i'll fight anyone between 154-168" because he's not the fighter his fans thought him to be. He's afraid of Ward.
              See bolded...that isn't the point. I was illustrating why GGG would move up to 168 for Froch/Chavez, and not Ward. The $$$, and relative skill of the boxers involved.

              I can't say GGG is afraid of Ward, we don't truly know what's in any man's heart until they show us...and this isn't one of those times where GGG is showing us.

              As the A-side, GGG has the negotiating leverage to request a cw...he's the smaller guy, why shouldnt he tilt the odds a lil in his favor. That's basic gamesmanship and fair play. I swear some of you don't know how the game goes.

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                #57
                Originally posted by BlakBread904
                I can't say GGG is afraid of Ward, we don't truly know what's in any man's heart until they show us...and this isn't one of those times where GGG is showing us.

                As the A-side, GGG has the negotiating leverage to request a cw...he's the smaller guy, why shouldnt he tilt the odds a lil in his favor. That's basic gamesmanship and fair play. I swear some of you don't know how the game goes.
                He's showing he's afraid by wanting to weaken Ward but not Froch or Chavez. Why shouldn't he? Because it makes him a hypocrite and a liar, that's why.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by BlakBread904
                  you obviously DKSAB...this is prizefighting, money is always an issue....Froch/Chavez Jr were not coming down to 164...GGG was going up to 168 one time for a big money fight vs one of those two.

                  Are you really saying that GGG/Ward (at any weight) would have made the same amount of money as GGG/Froch-or-Chavez Jr?


                  It really is funny reading some of these posts.. some of these posters were the same exact ones posting gigantic walls of text about A-Side/B-Side, PPV numbers, risk vs reward, boxing is a business, etc. etc. when it fit their agenda.. Now, suddenly, they no longer understand that "boxing is a bidness" and are singing a completely different tune


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                    #59
                    Originally posted by BlakBread904
                    Javi, i like how you decline to mention the money, as if money doesn't matter in the boxing game. I will ask you to stop being dense, step away from your biased agenda and be objective. Money matters in professional boxing.

                    So, let me ask you this, Big Javi...If you were in GGG's shoes, you'd obviously fight Ward at 168, conceding negotiations to him as the A-side...right? because you're a warrior and tough guy...right?

                    I hate to bring him up, but floyd took what he can vs ODH. Less money, gloves he didnt want ect ect....

                    I didn't bring up the money cuz IMO it should be 50/50...

                    But ggg the a side doe. He puts asses in seats doe. He sells out arenas doe.
                    So why does GGG need another fighter for PPV??? Put him in a PPV vs anybody... hes the "draw" right? he sells out arenas and what not.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by BlakBread904
                      you obviously DKSAB...this is prizefighting, money is always an issue....Froch/Chavez Jr were not coming down to 164...GGG was going up to 168 one time for a big money fight vs one of those two.

                      Are you really saying that GGG/Ward (at any weight) would have made the same amount of money as GGG/Froch-or-Chavez Jr?


                      So you are ok with the supposed killer, who cant get fights, to use the high risk/low reward scenario???

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