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  • NEETzsche
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    #11
    Originally posted by tiliheels
    real boxing fans are going to talk **** about ward..bc they want to see the best fights..and the weight order says gggward first then let ward move up and fight kovalev as well..

    real boxing fans also know that 168 is no longer cleaned out..dirrell and degale showed us that in a very close world class fight with some huge shots in it..badu jack will make an even bigger name if he end groves...ward has work to do, but i agree with the fans i want ggg and kovalev too..

    NO PROTECTION PLAN FANNING PLEASE!
    degale just signed with al haymon, he isn't going to face ward for a while. jack will probably lose to groves and groves will then unify with either abraham (sauerland) or degale (hearn). smith and fielding are also going to want to explore their options in the uk and europe before taking on ward. golovkin isn't going to move up to smw before he's chased the cotto/canelo fight as far as it will go. as far as i can tell, ward basically has the options of ramirez and maybe chudinov

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      #12
      ... Kovalev will solve the "piece of shit" issue one way or another -- if Kov will not get him in the ring, the pimp should avoid back alleys when returning home.

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      • tiliheels
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        #13
        Originally posted by MDPopescu
        ... "real boxing fans" also know that 160 is no longer cleaned out...

        ... Lemieux, Lee, Quillin, Canelo (or Cotto?) are still there to date.
        that is crap lee and lemieux have both been stopped later than earlier in their careers..quillin is on his way to 168 or cw bc he cant make 160

        degale is gold medal, froch is gold medal off huge wins, groves only has 2 losses at the highest stage, dirrell and degale went to the wire on my card, badu jack stopped early in his career has just beat apower puncher to clear doubts about him..

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          #14
          Originally posted by NEETzsche
          degale just signed with al haymon, he isn't going to face ward for a while. jack will probably lose to groves and groves will then unify with either abraham (sauerland) or degale (hearn). smith and fielding are also going to want to explore their options in the uk and europe before taking on ward. golovkin isn't going to move up to smw before he's chased the cotto/canelo fight as far as it will go. as far as i can tell, ward basically has the options of ramirez and maybe chudinov
          i need proof the jayz haymon beef is real...haymon fighters were at jay z's card for ward...we'll see..

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            #15
            Originally posted by Szef
            WTF does Golovkin have to do with Kovalev?
            im sure that would be his first response..so if he has not responded to that yet im sure they have spoke on kovalev..last i heard they were staying at 168 bc he can make the weight easy..virgil has never wanted to move up even when 175 had no power punchers..he says if we can make the weight we dont need to go anywhere..if we grow into a weight thats where we will go...

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              #16
              ... Groves! Good target for ward! Groves "only" has two KO losses against Froch -- whom Ward beat practically without any hands whatsoever.

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                #17
                High drama within team Ward! : Virgil never wanted him to leave 168, while Dre strongly wanted to go up at Heavyweights...
                ... pathetic.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by MDPopescu
                  ... "real boxing fans" also know that 160 is no longer cleaned out...

                  ... Lemieux, Lee, Quillin, Canelo (or Cotto?) are still there to date.
                  160 so hot that a former 140lb champion is their lineal...and that oscar admitted he'll be protecting his new found chamption...and that lee and quillin shared knocked downs and couldnt figure out how to beat each other bc lee's chin is basically a hangnail..and quillin is incomplete as they come...

                  GGG who is a highly unproven fighter would be a 5 to 1 favorite over every guy u named..

                  ward is prove and i see no more than 3 to 1 for him and degale and also dirrell, & groves

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                  • NEETzsche
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by tiliheels
                    i need proof the jayz haymon beef is real...haymon fighters were at jay z's card for ward...we'll see..
                    well, i hope you're right, because ward-degale is a good fight on paper, but he's definitely going to want to cash in with a unification against groves first. i'd like to see ward-chudinov next, then ward-ramirez, then ward-degale/groves, then ward-golovkin, then ward-kovalev. but if degale is definitely off the table for ward, then i'd prefer him to just move up and take on kovalev, otherwise he'll have to waste another year waiting around for golovkin to move up

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                    • tiliheels
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by MDPopescu
                      High drama within team Ward! : Virgil never wanted him to leave 168, while Dre strongly wanted to go up at Heavyweights...
                      ... pathetic.
                      virgil does seem like a burden..he's stubborn with all of his fighters...but he's been right with ward..fights at 175 arent anymore sure then they are at 168 at this point..just 2 perhaps..kovalev is easy to be made and maybe pascal...hopkins maybe but ward isnt in the game to beat 50 year olds

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