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  • W1LLPARK3R
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    #31
    Originally posted by -Kev-
    Damn...Dariusz Michelwhatever is there, but not Mike McCallum.

    McCallum's wins:

    Kalule
    J Jackson
    Kalambay
    Curry
    McRory
    Arguably beats James Toney twice
    Herol Graham

    And he is not a top 25 fighter?

    These types of lists will never satisfy everyone, but chill, McCallum is top 25 of the last 25 years.
    That's a notable omission as well..

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    • -Kev-
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      #32
      Originally posted by PBP
      I was a Roy Stan at one point in my life but he is not have a greater boxing career than Floyd, Whitaker or Pacquiao.
      Only one boxer in the history of boxing has started his career at 154 and gone up to fight at Heavyweight to win a title. Also it took 106 years for a MW to win a title at HW again, when Roy finally did it. Champ in 4 weight classes, but not your average 4 weight jump of 4-7lbs a weight class, one included a 25lb jump. For reference, Floyd made a total of 24lb jump his entire career through 5 weight classes. Roy went up in one fight, the amount Floyd went up his entire career. Picture Floyd jumping from 130 to 154 in one fight, to beat a world champion there, even a weak one, just picture it, it would be insane. In total, Roy went up a total of 46lbs above his debut weight.

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      • -PBP-
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        #33
        Originally posted by -Kev-
        Damn...Dariusz Michelwhatever is there, but not Mike McCallum.

        McCallum's wins:

        Kalule
        J Jackson
        Kalambay
        Curry
        McRory
        Arguably beats James Toney twice
        Herol Graham

        And he is not a top 25 fighter?

        These types of lists will never satisfy everyone, but chill, McCallum is top 25 of the last 25 years.
        Great call. That is a travesty. The order of the fighters is a matter of opinion but you at least need to have all of the names in the hat and excluding McCallum just can't happen.

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          #34
          Originally posted by aldo5408
          james toney should be up there unbelievable talent
          James Toney is there.

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          • -Kev-
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            #35
            Originally posted by PBP
            Great call. That is a travesty. The order of the fighters is a matter of opinion but you at least need to have all of the names in the hat and excluding McCallum just can't happen.
            He beat several former and future Ring champions too, those are not just top 10 contenders he beat. Donald Curry was former 147 Ring champ, Kalambay was 160 Ring champ, Kalule was 154 Ring champ, he beat McRory also who was one of the very top WW's of the 1980s. McCallum KO'ed Curry and Jackson! Went 1-1 with Kalambay, and out of 3 fights with Toney, you could argue all day that he beat him twice.

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            • -PBP-
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              #36
              Originally posted by -Kev-
              Only one boxer in the history of boxing has started his career at 154 and gone up to fight at Heavyweight to win a title. Also it took 106 years for a MW to win a title at HW again, when Roy finally did it. Champ in 4 weight classes, but not your average 4 weight jump of 4-7lbs a weight class, one included a 25lb jump. For reference, Floyd made a total of 24lb jump his entire career through 5 weight classes. Roy went up in one fight, the amount Floyd went up his entire career. Picture Floyd jumping from 130 to 154 in one fight, to beat a world champion there, even a weak one, just picture it, it would be insane. In total, Roy went up a total of 46lbs above his debut weight.
              It was a tremendous accomplishment but it was also a golden opportunity. Like Andre Ward said, in order to pull off such a feat you need the right opponent and John Ruiz was just that. James Toney whooped Ruiz too and also beat Holyfield and Sam Peter (IMO). If Lewis held all the belts, or it Wlad had all of the belts would he have been able to pull it off?

              Head to head, p4p, he may beat everybody on that list and maybe all time. But his total body of work is 4th at best.

              I think Floyd and Sweet Pea are interchangeable at 1-2, Pac, Roy, B-Hop to round out the top 5.

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                #37
                Mccallum and chavez I can't have on the list because there best work wasn't between
                1991-2015

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Sugar Adam Ali
                  Mccallum and chavez I can't have on the list because there best work wasn't between
                  1991-2015
                  Is that a criteria? That's flawed because you have partial careers vs full careers. If that's the intent the list should be limited to fighters who made the debut after 1991 or had their first championship fight, or something.

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                  • Sugar Adam Ali
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                    #39
                    Oscar de la Hoya is a straight up G

                    FOUGHT 7 guys on the list... Unbelievable

                    #2,3,4 he faced.. Cream of the crop, all were p4p # 1 when Oscar fought them..

                    Floyd
                    Manny
                    Hopkins
                    Pernell
                    Chavez
                    Shane
                    Tito


                    And almost had an 8th name of tzsyu hadn't been ko'd by vince Phillips..


                    No one else on the list comes even close to that....

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                    • Sugar Adam Ali
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by PBP
                      Is that a criteria? That's flawed because you have partial careers vs full careers. If that's the intent the list should be limited to fighters who made the debut after 1991 or had their first championship fight, or something.
                      I just look at the past 25 years... In that time frame, who had the best career resume... If thread has a time period, I use only fights contained in that time period and nothing outside of it..

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