Comments Thread For: Golovkin's Promoter: We'd Fight Ward at 164, 50-50 Split

[zerosixthree]

Until Ward gets himself a few more titles, NO fight with him involved will be a PPV fight. Not against Golovkin, not against Kovalev, not against DeGale or any other SMW champion. Ward will be fighting on BET for the foreseeable future.

Perhaps you'd be happy with him fighting Degale, Abraham and Groves to build his profile in preperation for big fight with Kovalev or Golovkin?

[Scipio2009]

Are you actually trying to say that Ward is gonna duck Golovkin?

I'm saying that Ward is going back down to 168, has more than enough fresh fights to keep him busy for the next 18 months at 168, and Golovkin can't hide forever (Cotto-Canelo winner is going to vacate the WBC 160 belt in favor of the vacant WBC 154 belt, David Lemieux is easily 3 fights away from even remote pressure to fight Golovkin, and the "hype himself up by can crushing" schtick is wearing thin).

Golovkin fights his can in September/October, fights for the vacant WBC belt December/January, and then he's "whistling pass the graveyard". He might be able to skate by the Spring, but come Summer 2016, he's run out out leeway.

[Barcham]

Perhaps you'd be happy with him fighting Degale, Abraham and Groves to build his profile in preperation for big fight with Kovalev or Golovkin?

Why not? It would be a hell of a lot better than fighting the Paul Smiths of the world. Let Ward unify all the titles at SMW, let GGG do the same at Mw and Kovalev do it at LHW. THEN Ward has two HUGE PPV fights waiting for him. Then Ward can choose between an unprecedented unification fight between UNDISPUTED UNIFIED TITLE HOLDERS at either the division above him or the one below him. Imagine if he was to fight and defeat GGG and hold ALL TITLES AT MW AND SMW and THEN, THEN he challenges the UNDISPUTED UNIFIED CHAMPION AT LHW!!!

Imagine his place in history if he was able to win ALL THE TITLES IN THREE DIVISIONS!!!!! Talk about being the best of all time!

All it takes is the will to take the chance and to get off his ass and get it done. He could unify the SMW titles in 6 months if he really put his mind to it and if his promoter was serious about backing him with serious money. Of course that assumes that he is able to win the other titles in the first place, and that he can defeat Golovkin for his titles and then move up and take Kovalev down.

Do I think he could do it? No, I don't. I think he would have trouble winning all the titles at SMW and would lose to GGG or Kovalev, whoever he fights first. But it does not mean I would not like to see him try!!!

Greatness requires the taking of risks, this is why so few ever achieve it.

[Scipio2009]

Have I missed something? I thought Ward was after big money fights? That's why he didn't want the Kovalev fight, right? Because it wasn't PPV?

Paraphasing the man himself, after he fights Ramirez, then what? After he fights Groves and Degale, then what?

These guys aren't on his level and they certainly aren't making him any money.

Ward-Golvokin at 168 is the next "money fight" for Ward; he's basically got a minimum of $2m for every other fight in the cue.

Simply put, Ward "keeps himself busy" while he waits for Team Golovkin to grow a set.

Chudinov (WBA#1), Ramirez (WBA#3), "Porky" Medina(WBA#11), Feigenbutz-Reynoso winner (WBA#7vs#8), and Patrick Nielsen (WBA#6) are all options available to Ward, with his promoter willing to actually open up the pocketbook to bring in the opponent wanted.

Ward fights this October/November, fights again Spring 2016, and then fights again late Summer 2016. If Golovkin continues to duck him, he turns to the chicken**** middleweight titlist that his team is showing him to be, the public takes notice of the nonsense, and Ward moves on with his career, likely moving up to light heavyweight and simply schooling the guys cutting from 200lbs off of sheer skill.

[aboutfkntime]

Have I missed something? I thought Ward was after big money fights? That's why he didn't want the Kovalev fight, right? Because it wasn't PPV?

Paraphasing the man himself, after he fights Ramirez, then what? After he fights Groves and Degale, then what?

These guys aren't on his level and they certainly aren't making him any money.

When did Ward say that he wasn't interested in Kovalev ?

[i'm a fun haver]

Ward-Golvokin at 168 is the next "money fight" for Ward; he's basically got a minimum of $2m for every other fight in the cue.

Simply put, Ward "keeps himself busy" while he waits for Team Golovkin to grow a set.

Chudinov (WBA#1), Ramirez (WBA#3), "Porky" Medina(WBA#11), Feigenbutz-Reynoso winner (WBA#7vs#8), and Patrick Nielsen (WBA#6) are all options available to Ward, with his promoter willing to actually open up the pocketbook to bring in the opponent wanted.

Ward fights this October/November, fights again Spring 2016, and then fights again late Summer 2016. If Golovkin continues to duck him, he turns to the chicken**** middleweight titlist that his team is showing him to be, the public takes notice of the nonsense, and Ward moves on with his career, likely moving up to light heavyweight and simply schooling the guys cutting from 200lbs off of sheer skill.

Ward just had his first fight since Nov 2013.
GGG has fought 5 times since then.
GGG is fighting 2 more times this year.
Ward will be lucky to fight one more time this year.
One guy keeps himself busy fighting and it's not Ward lol

[aboutfkntime]

Golovkin fans, before Loeffler's face-palm.....

" Ward should stop talking about Golovkin, and stop ducking Kovalev.....
..... and NO Andre, you cant have a catchweight, the champ says 175, and catchweights are for cowards "

Golovkin fans, after Loeffler's face-palm.....
" 164 sounds fair, stop ducking Gennady"

[bigfo0t]

Ward-Golvokin at 168 is the next "money fight" for Ward; he's basically got a minimum of $2m for every other fight in the cue.

Simply put, Ward "keeps himself busy" while he waits for Team Golovkin to grow a set.

Chudinov (WBA#1), Ramirez (WBA#3), "Porky" Medina(WBA#11), Feigenbutz-Reynoso winner (WBA#7vs#8), and Patrick Nielsen (WBA#6) are all options available to Ward, with his promoter willing to actually open up the pocketbook to bring in the opponent wanted.

Ward fights this October/November, fights again Spring 2016, and then fights again late Summer 2016. If Golovkin continues to duck him, he turns to the chicken**** middleweight titlist that his team is showing him to be, the public takes notice of the nonsense, and Ward moves on with his career, likely moving up to light heavyweight and simply schooling the guys cutting from 200lbs off of sheer skill.

So.. Team Golovkin needs to "grow a set", leave behind unfinished business and much bigger money fights at 160, and move up to fight Ward for a fraction of the $$$ at 168? or he's ducking?

While Ward, who has nothing left to prove at 168, can barely even make that weight anymore, shouldn't move up to 175? Where he has EVERYTHING to gain?

We all know Kovalev is dangerous but he is also a HUGE opportunity Ward could capitalize on. Imagine how much Ward's stock would climb if he defeats Kovalev. GGG doesn't really have that much to gain by moving up, certainly not as much as Ward does.. Now tell me again, which of the two really needs to "grow a set".

[AllBoxingAD]

Why not? It would be a hell of a lot better than fighting the Paul Smiths of the world. Let Ward unify all the titles at SMW, let GGG do the same at Mw and Kovalev do it at LHW. THEN Ward has two HUGE PPV fights waiting for him. Then Ward can choose between an unprecedented unification fight between UNDISPUTED UNIFIED TITLE HOLDERS at either the division above him or the one below him. Imagine if he was to fight and defeat GGG and hold ALL TITLES AT MW AND SMW and THEN, THEN he challenges the UNDISPUTED UNIFIED CHAMPION AT LHW!!!

Imagine his place in history if he was able to win ALL THE TITLES IN THREE DIVISIONS!!!!! Talk about being the best of all time!

All it takes is the will to take the chance and to get off his ass and get it done. He could unify the SMW titles in 6 months if he really put his mind to it and if his promoter was serious about backing him with serious money. Of course that assumes that he is able to win the other titles in the first place, and that he can defeat Golovkin for his titles and then move up and take Kovalev down.

Do I think he could do it? No, I don't. I think he would have trouble winning all the titles at SMW and would lose to GGG or Kovalev, whoever he fights first. But it does not mean I would not like to see him try!!!

Greatness requires the taking of risks, this is why so few ever achieve it.

If you had about a week of free time, i could explain to you why EVERYTHING you just wrote is impossible.

As it is, I have a life, so you will have to figure it out on your own.

[nacho daddy]

164?

you are right it should be at 160. let ward know what dawson felt like