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  • #51
    Originally posted by SkillspayBills View Post
    If Pac came back and beat Crawford though........that would be some legendary ****
    Legendary? beating a lightweight moving up who never fought at 147 before? don't get me wrong, it'd be a good win for him, but not "legendary"

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    • #52
      A fifth Marquez fight will sell

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      • #53
        Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
        Nor does an asterisk need to be added but a torn rotator cuff is a big deal in a boxing match. People should realize that Manny was nowhere near his best in the fight and did take rounds from Floyd. Not bad at all. He simply doesn't deserve as much guff as he's getting on here.
        Really?...After all the **** that was talked about Floyd regarding this match before it took place, he deserves every bit of it, or rather his fans deserve it for all of the crap they talked leading up to this fight. Floyd hit him and he lost his desire to be aggressive as he usually is when he fights. Remember how "feather fisted" floyd was supposed to be?

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        • #54
          Originally posted by Willie_pep1 View Post
          A fifth Marquez fight will sell
          Yep thats the only fight, but Marquez now has the upperhand in negotiations...But if he gets ko'd again, he will go out losing to Floyd and Marquez....He's not going to go out like that, he should fight Matthysse. lol

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          • #55
            Hopefully Matthysse, Crawford or Brook.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
              Last I saw Bob said Manny was 100% going into the fight. Koncz checked the form "no". I did not see confirmation Manny got hurt in the 4th round. He did have surgery 2 days later.
              It's been clear every since day one that he was planning on fighting through the injury with a numbing shot in the shoulder. Pacquiao was not aware that he would not be allowed to by checking that he had no pre-existing injuries.

              This is all here nor there because it's now ancient history but it should be noted that Pacquiao was not close to 100%. In fact, with a badly damaged right shoulder I would estimate that he was no more than 60% after the 4th round. Just a guess.

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              • #57
                Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
                It's been clear every since day one that he was planning on fighting through the injury with a numbing shot in the shoulder. Pacquiao was not aware that he would not be allowed to by checking that he had no pre-existing injuries.

                This is all here nor there because it's now ancient history but it should be noted that Pacquiao was not close to 100%. In fact, with a badly damaged right shoulder I would estimate that he was no more than 60% after the 4th round. Just a guess.
                Manny had cramps in his legs in camp and got special cream for those cramps. A shoulder injury was never reported.

                How could he not be aware? This isn't his 1st rodeo. Ignorance isn't an excuse. Besides, Manny didn't fill it out, Koncz did.

                Respectfully this is not what Manny's team is now saying. They are saying he was 100% going into the fight.

                Respectfully, at no point during the broadcast of the fight did Manny or anyone in his corner mention an injury occurred in the 4th round. It seems you are saying he did because he had a massive flurry and then stopped punching.

                Furthermore, he continued to throw rights after round 4 and his corner was telling him to throw more combos, something most don't think would be sound advice for a fighter with an injured shoulder (allegedly).

                It's a shame that Manny/Bob keep switching the story and as a result, putting fans like you in an awkward position.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by Boxing Goat View Post
                  It's been clear every since day one that he was planning on fighting through the injury with a numbing shot in the shoulder. Pacquiao was not aware that he would not be allowed to by checking that he had no pre-existing injuries.

                  This is all here nor there because it's now ancient history but it should be noted that Pacquiao was not close to 100%. In fact, with a badly damaged right shoulder I would estimate that he was no more than 60% after the 4th round. Just a guess.
                  sounds like more of a Pacquiao problem, not a Mayweather problem. Mayweather isn't the one that "injured" Pacquiao's shoulder and forced him to fight. That was Pacquiao's decision and he has to live with the results. He lost very clearly.

                  Has Pacquiao's camp even gotten their story together yet? Was it an injury that he's been fighting with since the De La Hoya fight? If so, how did they not know that they had to check "yes" on a question that specifically asked if there was any kind of injury to get the shot?

                  Did it happen during training camp? If so, why did Freddie Roach sound so confident going into the fight if he knew his fighter wasn't at 100%? Isn't he the one that said before the fight that Pacquiao had to fight the perfect fight to beat Mayweather? He went on Stephen A Smith's radio show 2 days before the fight and guaranteed Pacquiao would win. What happened with that?

                  Or was he 100% going into the fight like Bob Arum said? Throwing flurries, not getting the shoulder worked on at all during the fight and raising his arms at the end of the fight with a "severely torn rotator cuff".

                  Which one is it?

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Post
                    Manny had cramps in his legs in camp and got special cream for those cramps. A shoulder injury was never reported.

                    How could he not be aware? This isn't his 1st rodeo. Ignorance isn't an excuse. Besides, Manny didn't fill it out, Koncz did.

                    Respectfully this is not what Manny's team is now saying. They are saying he was 100% going into the fight.

                    Respectfully, at no point during the broadcast of the fight did Manny or anyone in his corner mention an injury occurred in the 4th round. It seems you are saying he did because he had a massive flurry and then stopped punching.

                    Furthermore, he continued to throw rights after round 4 and his corner was telling him to throw more combos, something most don't think would be sound advice for a fighter with an injured shoulder (allegedly).

                    It's a shame that Manny/Bob keep switching the story and as a result, putting fans like you in an awkward position.

                    And that position is FACE DOWN ASS UP

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by MRCHOKEaMF View Post
                      Really?...After all the **** that was talked about Floyd regarding this match before it took place, he deserves every bit of it, or rather his fans deserve it for all of the crap they talked leading up to this fight. Floyd hit him and he lost his desire to be aggressive as he usually is when he fights. Remember how "feather fisted" floyd was supposed to be?
                      I suppose if I bet on Pacquiao to win I would be a little pissed too but he went through with the fight with an injury and it back fired. Simple as that. BTW, Pac was confident but he didn't trash talk Floyd before the fight. He never does. I would suggest putting yourself in Manny's shoes and ask yourself what you would have done in the same situation. If you would have done differently, then you have a right to be upset. But if not, then I suggest you give it up.

                      P.S. Pacquiao can be seen clobbering Floyd on the ropes in rd. 4 after stunning him with a punch that only landed at about 25%. He didn't lose desire until he felt that pain that would not go away. Floyd had little to do with his performance and benefitted a lot from circumstances. It happens, it's life.

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