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  • C-SHO
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    #161
    Originally posted by ADP02
    Even worse. So you are saying that Floyd always fights like that? Remember that you called it an unmotivating performance.


    That was Manny's game plan. To attack smartly so to either hit and not be hit or not be hit and counter. Also if the opportunity comes, do more.

    Did Manny want to do more? I'm sure they both did but like I said, when Manny did go for his combinations, Floyd would often foul by reaching out and hugging or putting Manny in a head lock or pushing Manny off or bending below the waist.

    Also, Manny was fighting with one healthy arm. What was Floyd's excuse?
    Dude, im not a Mayweather fan. Although respect his style. I also respect Pacs style. One guy stayed true to himself and fought like he always does. Pac got caught up trying to fight a tactical fight he had no chance of winning. Had Pac stayed true to himself we would have had a much better fight than what we got. I like how in true fanboy fashion you tried to twist my words. When you say you will be relentless and throw huge amount of punches and score an early KO , than proceed to fight like Pac did, it has to be considered an unmotivated performance.

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    • ADP02
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      #162
      Originally posted by C-SHO
      Dude, im not a Mayweather fan. Although respect his style. I also respect Pacs style. One guy stayed true to himself and fought like he always does. Pac got caught up trying to fight a tactical fight he had no chance of winning. Had Pac stayed true to himself we would have had a much better fight than what we got.
      Well, I can agree with your post.

      Manny had no chance of winning with that game plan against Floyd in Vegas. I agree with you.

      Still, that was their game plan and they thought that they were in the fight. So that is why they never changed it up. Still, Floyd was allowed to foul. That hurt Manny's chances of doing more. Also, I'm sure that his torn rotator cuff injury didn't help matters.

      BTW - I called the game plan before the fight took place. I just read enough articles and interviews that made me expect that Manny was not going to come out balls to the wall and throw from round 1 thru 12. They saw something in Floyd's game and decided to fight it smart so that Floyd couldn't do much damage on Manny nor connect much. That actually worked since Floyd did not do anything memorable. Manny had the few big moments where there was action.

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      • richardt
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        #163
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime
        Ummm..... ?

        A blood test requires a tiny vial of blood, is almost painless, and takes about a minute..... it is completely harmless..... and in the very worst case scenario, would require nothing more than a glass of water and sitting down for 10 minutes to fully recover.

        Have you ever been tattooed ?

        Thats is kinda like folks insinuating that Mayweather giving some woman a backhander is worst than Pac cheating on his wife.

        Both are wrong.

        But the backhander causes no problems, present or future..... and yet matrimonial betrayal will affect both Pac and Jinkee for the rest of their lives. Jinkee will NEVER trust Manny again, NEVER.
        Simple - Pac said that getting his blood drawn weakens him so that is his prerogative. Getting a shot by a doctor causes a loss of a few drops, if that. Getting a Tattoo causes a few drops if that, certainly not a vile. And fighters don't get tattoo's a few days before a fight. Case closed.

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        • C-SHO
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          #164
          Originally posted by richardt
          Simple - Pac said that getting his blood drawn weakens him so that is his prerogative. Getting a shot by a doctor causes a loss of a few drops, if that. Getting a Tattoo causes a few drops if that, certainly not a vile. And fighters don't get tattoo's a few days before a fight. Case closed.
          I like to get *******s before I fight, if I dont get it, ill use it as an excuse.

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          • richardt
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            #165
            Originally posted by C-SHO
            I like to get *******s before I fight, if I dont get it, ill use it as an excuse.
            The debate has never been about if Pac was hindered by giving blood or not, it was about the completely brain-dead hater assumption that he was afraid of needles, which obviously he was not and anyone with the IQ above a ******ed frog would know that he has had tattoos and most likely flu, tetanus, etc., shots. Pac never claimed he was afraid of needles.

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            • ShoulderRoll
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              #166
              Pac refused to take the test. That's why we never got to see these two fight in their prime.

              Bottom line.

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              • C-SHO
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                #167
                Originally posted by ShoulderRoll
                Pac refused to take the test. That's why we never got to see these two fight in their prime.

                Bottom line.
                Yep, completely agree. Had he took the test we see prime vs prime, but the fight result would be the same, as well as the butthurt fanboys. It would be exactly the same except maybe a different excuse.

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                • Johnny2x2x
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                  #168
                  LOL, even Bob Arum didn't think Manny won, he says he thought it was a draw.

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                  • Spoon23
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by Carpe Diem
                    I don't know how anyone can give Manny more than four rounds and I'm being generous. I had him winning rounds, 2, 4, 6, and possibly round 7(that round could've gone either way). That's about it. It wasn't a wipe out like Mayweather-JMM was, but anyone who seriously scored the fight a draw or had Manny winning need to have his/her head examined.
                    Here I'll make it easy for you. Documented round by round connected punches. Unedited videos. The truth the yellow trunks guy won. 8-4.

                    Videos show the whole truth.

                    Even round 2 where pacfans thought PAc lost actually he did win it as well.

                    This unbiased video clearly show pac even won the 2nd round as well. All there. Time stamp it if you want to dispute, but I assure you can't because the truth hurts. Pac really won it and including 7 more rounds to go with it.



                    Floyd's heist is getting clearer by the day.

                    It's now 8-4 for pac. Those who want to dispute this video TIME STAMP IT. VIDEOS DON'T LIE.



                    Manny won rounds 2, 3,4,6,7,8,10,12

                    Since, you want a full round. here some of the rounds that were in question.

                    round 3, documented connnected punches



                    round 6, documented connected punches



                    Round 12, documented connected punches

                    clearly Pac's round.



                    round 8 documented connected punches

                    Last edited by Spoon23; 07-05-2015, 09:44 PM.

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                    • jas
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                      #170
                      Had PAC winning on rewatch

                      Mosley had it a draw

                      Holyfield had PAC winning

                      Loma had PAC winning

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