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  • OnePunch
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    #211
    Originally posted by AddiX
    Main events tried the same exact lawSuIt, and folded it for a Hopkins fight.

    My guess is it became pretty clear there lawsuit wasnt going anywhere.
    Different scenario. The Main Events lawsuit was about damages to Kovalev due to the Stevenson pull out. Once they got the Hopkins fight, they could no longer claim they were "damaged". Made sense at that point to withdraw it.......

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    • Scott9945
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      #212
      Originally posted by AddiX
      Main events tried the same exact lawSuIt, and folded it for a Hopkins fight.

      My guess is it became pretty clear there lawsuit wasnt going anywhere.
      Main Events didn't really have the deep pockets to hang with Haymon in court. Plus when Kovalev was sitting on a career high payday with Hopkins it took all the air out of their balloon.

      Golden Boy and certainly Top Rank have the resources to see this through.

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      • OnePunch
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        #213
        Originally posted by Scipio2009
        There is no violation; Haymon hasn't promoted a single fight or fight card in his entire existence in the sport of boxing. Either acting as a manager or adviser to a manager, Haymon's only involvement is on the fighter side of the ledger.

        All of the shows have been promoted by the cadre of DiBella Entertainment, Warriors Boxing, TGB Promotions, Mayweather Promotions, and Groupe Yvon Michel, with other smaller promoters working in association on certain events. lol
        no offense, but you really dont know what you are talking about. PBC controls the ticket revenue, and the advertising revenue, and pays the "promoter" a flat fee to stage the event. That means PBC is a defacto promoter with a financial stake in the promotion, which is a CLEAR violation of the Ali Act.

        Not to mention, I'd bet dinner that the fighters on these events Ali Act financial disclosures only list the money paid from PBC to the "promoter", and not the actual revenue received by PBC, which flies in the face of the laws intent.....
        Last edited by OnePunch; 07-01-2015, 05:34 PM.

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        • AddiX
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          #214
          Originally posted by Ahmed_Ismail
          No it's not, Haymon is a black man and Arum is a *** and the ***s control the media and the world of sports. Don't believe me go to this website:

          Professional Sports: Major League Baseball (MLB): Allan H. “Bud” Selig(Ashkenazi Jew) – Commissioner Robert D. Manfred, Jr.(Ashkenazi Jew) – Executive Vice President, Labor …


          again I didn't say anything bad about anybody, I'm just saying facts, u guys are just too sensitive about this whole race thing, normal people talk about these things all over the world without getting called racist, freedom of speech my ass.

          No I'm not a blonde aryan, I'm an african! and NO I'm not a ****** and no I don't hate ***s, but still they're in control of everything.
          Your clearly trying to turn this into a race thing, I don't even know why your trying to deny it.

          But you don't even mention that Oscar is a Mexican. And he's trying to sue for twice what Arum is.

          Does that somehow suggest Mexicans are powerful and greedy and control the sports world?

          You argument is complete trash, and goes nowhere. That's why no one listens to black people.

          Jk

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          • AddiX
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            #215
            Originally posted by OnePunch
            Different scenario. The Main Events lawsuit was about damages to Kovalev due to the Stevenson pull out. Once they got the Hopkins fight, they could no longer claim they were "damaged". Made sense at that point to withdraw it.......
            Not true at all, go back and look at the entire lawsuit, it went a lot further than kovalev.

            At that time they were going after golden boy AND Haymon.

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              #216
              Originally posted by AddiX
              Your clearly trying to turn this into a race thing, I don't even know why your trying to deny it.

              But you don't even mention that Oscar is a Mexican. And he's trying to sue for twice what Arum is.

              Does that somehow suggest Mexicans are powerful and greedy and control the sports world?

              You argument is complete trash, and goes nowhere. That's why no one listens to black people.

              Jk
              U accuse him of turning it to a race thing and then u decide to be racist. Good job numb nuts.

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              • OnePunch
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                #217
                Originally posted by AddiX
                Not true at all, go back and look at the entire lawsuit, it went a lot further than kovalev.

                At that time they were going after golden boy AND Haymon.
                I never thought the GB part of that was going anywhere. I felt the crux of it was that Haymon/Gym/Showtime colluded to pull Stevenson and thus Kovalev / Main Events was damaged by that action. Its been awhile since I read it though so I could be wrong about the focus being that narrow......

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                • AddiX
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                  #218
                  Originally posted by Scott9945
                  Main Events didn't really have the deep pockets to hang with Haymon in court. Plus when Kovalev was sitting on a career high payday with Hopkins it took all the air out of their balloon.

                  Golden Boy and certainly Top Rank have the resources to see this through.
                  I agree, $ was probably def a big part of why they pulled the suit.

                  But still, Haymon has been planning for this for years, he can drag this out as long as need be.

                  And lets be serious, has anyone read the Ali Act? It's reads like a 15 year old kid wrote it, i don't know how well that document will hold up in court.

                  Although boxing360 did lose there promoters license over not following it in the proper manner.

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                    • Beater_of_ass
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                      #220
                      Originally posted by FeFist
                      How is the cheque proof of illegality?

                      Was the reason for payment specified? Were the individuals involved highlighted? From what I gathered the payment was from Haymon Sports LLC to Chavez Jnr Promotions. In case people do not know, companies have their own legal identity.

                      It would have to be proven that the companies are mere shells. I believe they would also have to prove the purpose of the payments.
                      Haymon's company on that check is for his promotion company correct? Well, he can't call himself in adviser then, it's just the rules.
                      Last edited by Beater_of_ass; 07-01-2015, 05:43 PM.

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