Thurman isn't such a big deal...

[Weebler I]

I watched Thurman-Guerrero today and Thurman dominated but he fought on the backfooting pot shotting with hard shots. Against a blown up welter with no power like Guerrero, he should never have had any problems. But after the KD, he was pushed back a few times to the ropes in the remaining to rounds and ate some leather. Against a come forward fighter with power that would be trouble. He had 10lbs on Guerrero and spent most of the fight on the backfoot. He's a solid boxer puncher but I am very confident the likes of Maidana and Matthysse who would be the aggressor WILL beat him. They both use a good jab as of late and that will set off the offence. If any of those fights are made, hit me up as we have to bet some epoints. Thurman's power punches are winged whereas Maidana, Matthysse dont really need to wind up.

lol he had a giant egg on his head. Toe to toe not such a good idea when that happens. Talking about him fighting on the backfoot only speaks to his versatility.

He beat Guerrero easily, 120-107, 118-109, 118-108.

Lucas Matthysse will never fight Keith Thurman. Maidana might, that's a good fight, I think Thurman wins it.

[Chiboxing123]

i feel thurman is the real deal. hes a beast beats anyone at 147 not named floyd...

[SalimShady1212]

lol he had a giant egg on his head. Toe to toe not such a good idea when that happens. Talking about him fighting on the backfoot only speaks to his versatility.

He beat Guerrero easily, 120-107, 118-109, 118-108.

Lucas Matthysse will never fight Keith Thurman. Maidana might, that's a good fight, I think Thurman wins it.

Styles make fights and if Maidana pressures him, it'll be tougher than fighting Matthysse. My money's on Chino, I hope that happens. Great fight and Thurman can prove himself as elite.

And Guerrero's not a big puncher, he's a blown up featherweight.

[Eastcoast]

Styles make fights and if Maidana pressures him, it'll be tougher than fighting Matthysse. My money's on Chino, I hope that happens. Great fight and Thurman can prove himself as elite.

Chino looks done with his career.

[SalimShady1212]

If your miles ahead, knocked the guy down with only a couple rounds left with your head looking like this:



What would you do?

I don't blame him for having some problems in a couple rounds. John Molina had Matthysse hurt and in much more of a dogfight than Thurman was in against Guerrero.

I think Thurman would DESTROY Matthysse. It's easy to say if this guy got Thurman on the ropes imagine what Matthysse would do without considering the other side of the fence...

So lets consider the other side, if Matthysse moves up will his power have the same effect on a big welter like Thurman?

How well will Lucas take shots from a big welter like Thurman?

Matthysse don't even apply relentless pressure and volume punches anyway, i don't think he would get the faster Keith on the ropes often enough. Maidana is even slower but at least he is busier, more awkward and now a comfortable 147 fighter, I can see Maidana landing a lot more leather than Lucas.

Lol it's Thurman in your avi and Matthysse in mine, only one way this debate will go. Matthysse threw over a thousand punches vs Ruslan. Thurman's chin is not the same as Provodnikov's. He doesn't apply pressure? He was beating the living daylight ou of Molina, it was non stop pressure for the last 3 rounds. Matthysse lands a division high of 46% of his power shots. Who has Thurman faced that can punch? Matthysse's resume is solid, Thurman's yet to face any proper adversity. Guerrero came of a performance where he looked like dog****e vs Kamegai and nearly got KO'd by a guy with 4 knockouts last month. Thurman will get whooped soon, only a matter of time.

[Weebler I]

Styles make fights and if Maidana pressures him, it'll be tougher than fighting Matthysse. My money's on Chino, I hope that happens. Great fight and Thurman can prove himself as elite.

Thing is, if Thurman fights on the backfoot Maidana might not get near him.

When Mayweather moved in the second Maidana fight, Marcos barely won a round, I think he could be given 2-3 over the 12. Thurman's leg's and movement are much fresher at this point.

If Thurman comes out toe to toe like he did against Guerrero and Chaves in the early rounds, it's possible Maidana knocks him out but Maidana could get stopped himself, possibly to the body. I favor Thurman but it's a good fight.

Remember though Maidana already pulled out of that fight, he's in a stronger position now, he doesn't need Thurman at this stage of his career so I wouldn't be shocked if he turned the fight down again.

[SalimShady1212]

Chino looks done with his career.

He wants to fight like once a year, he started running in Argentina last month.

[SalimShady1212]

Thing is, if Thurman fights on the backfoot Maidana might not get near him.

When Mayweather moved in the second Maidana fight, Marcos barely won a round, I think he could be given 2-3 over the 12. Thurman's leg's and movement are much fresher at this point.

If Thurman comes out toe to toe like he did against Guerrero and Chaves in the early rounds, it's possible Maidana knocks him out but Maidana could get stopped himself, possibly to the body. I favor Thurman but it's a good fight.

Remember though Maidana already pulled out of that fight, he's in a stronger position now, he doesn't need Thurman at this stage of his career so I wouldn't be shocked if he turned the fight down again.

My worry with that fight is that Maidana doesnt like body shots and Thurman loves throwing them. Also Maidana has deceptively quick feet. He still nearly killed Floyd in the second fight lol.

[Caught Square]

Lol it's Thurman in your avi and Matthysse in mine, only one way this debate will go. Matthysse threw over a thousand punches vs Ruslan. Thurman's chin is not the same as Provodnikov's. He doesn't apply pressure? He was beating the living daylight ou of Molina, it was non stop pressure for the last 3 rounds. Matthysse lands a division high of 46% of his power shots. Who has Thurman faced that can punch? Matthysse's resume is solid, Thurman's yet to face any proper adversity. Guerrero came of a performance where he looked like dog****e vs Kamegai and nearly got KO'd by a guy with 4 knockouts last month. Thurman will get whooped soon, only a matter of time.

Yeah he applies some pressure don't get me wrong but I don't see him as an out and out slugger kind of guy like Ruslan. He only had non stop pressure in the last 3 rounds once Molina was completely spent, wasn't like that before hand.

Thurman's chin don't need to be the same as Ruslan, he literally blocks punches with his face and is a level below Thurman. Chaves can punch. I agree Matthysse has a very good resume but none of those were at 147 against a big welter like Thurman.

What is 'proper adversity'? Thurman has been through a lot. If he gets knocked out then people will say he's an exposed hypejob but in the meantime he needs to face more adversity lol.

[SalimShady1212]

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Yeah he applies some pressure don't get me wrong but I don't see him as an out and out slugger kind of guy like Ruslan. He only had non stop pressure in the last 3 rounds once Molina was completely spent, wasn't like that before hand.

Thurman's chin don't need to be the same as Ruslan, he literally blocks punches with his face and is a level below Thurman. Chaves can punch. I agree Matthysse has a very good resume but none of those were at 147 against a big welter like Thurman.

What is 'proper adversity'? Thurman has been through a lot. If he gets knocked out then people will say he's an exposed hypejob but in the meantime he needs to face more adversity lol.

Adversity is when you have to comeback from a hard situation. Not when you have a lump ln your head vs a blown up featherweight. Matthysse never faced adversity before Molina because he was so dominant and that showed in the Garcia fight. Trust me, Thurman hasn't come anywhere near "adversity". We'll see what he's made of when someone solid hits him on the chin. He's a boxer puncher, not a slugger, he has underrated boxing skills (72-8 in the amateurs). Thurman 101-16 so both have solid boxing fundamentals.