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  • #11
    Ppl are ******ed.... they think that because a fighter weighed 130 pounds when he was 13 year olds he will be a 130 pounder when he reaches 30 years old.

    Some guy here posted that Golovkin in the amateurs weighed 140 pounds implying that GGG doesnt have to move up to 168 because he already moved up "3 divisions" in the amamteurs lol......... of course he did the guy was a ****ing teenager gtfoh.

    PPl grow... its nature.

    Tim is a full WW
    Cotto is a lazy WW
    Guerrero is a 135-140 pounder
    Vargas is huge, the dude looks like a WW. Idk how he did 140

    Ppl grow, whatever they weighed in the amateurs or when they turned pro is irrelevant. Their body will mature and they will fight at the weight they can make. Few exceptions like floyd, pacquiao and cotto who are fighting bigger guys out of their weight class.

    Hell, Canelo fought at 140............................... yeah when he was 15 LOL.
    Hes a full middleweight who cant make 154 and hides at 155.

    "Floyd beat Canelo a 140 pounder" thats how stupid some ppl look when they talk about weigh classes.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
      Apart from Chaves, he's fought fighters moving up (Vargas/Provodnikov) and little guys that could make 140 easily (Pacquiao/Marquez). He hasn't been fighting the fully fledged WW's.
      And, who are these "fully fledged welterweights"?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by -MEGA- View Post
        And, who are these "fully fledged welterweights"?
        He wont be able to answer that, if he does, he will say names that suit his agenda. Vargas is huge... look at him in the weigh in vs bradley, are ppl blind?

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        • #14
          True welters are guys like Brook, Berto, Porter, thurman,

          Blown up welters are manny, Bradley, floyd, broner, marquez..


          I would say guys like Maidana, khan, Devon, are legit natural welters, even though they started in lighter weights... They grew into a welter frame

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Isaac Clarke View Post
            Apart from Chaves, he's fought fighters moving up (Vargas/Provodnikov) and little guys that could make 140 easily (Pacquiao/Marquez). He hasn't been fighting the fully fledged WW's.
            Luis Abregu is a "full fledged WW".

            Bradley fought as a junior middleweight in the amateurs. He's short that's why he moved down to 140 as a pro. He's a welterweight now.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by -MEGA- View Post
              And, who are these "fully fledged welterweights"?
              Originally posted by BoxingLegend89' View Post
              He wont be able to answer that, if he does, he will say names that suit his agenda. Vargas is huge... look at him in the weigh in vs bradley, are ppl blind?
              Fighters that have fought at WW and established themselves there. Vargas being tall means nothing, he wasn't a WW before fighting Bradley.

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              • #17
                Because you can make excuses and or butter anything up that you want to to try to discredit anyone. Name any fight and you'll find someone making an excuse for the loser

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                • #18
                  There's no such thing, if you fight at 147 you are a welterweight. The term is just used by people to degrade other fighter's resumes. Even Floyd started at like 126. He could easily make 140, he's 149 on fight night.

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                  • #19
                    Full welterweights in my opinion.

                    Brook - Easily the biggest, surprised he still makes 147lb to be honest.
                    Thurman - Powerhouse with decent size.
                    Floyd - Shredded to the bone and weighs in near the limit.
                    Bradley - Short but the weight is in his muscles not his fat, doesn't carry excess weight.
                    Porter - Stocky with no excess weight.
                    Berto - Carries no excess weight and is stocky year round.
                    Khan - Has grown in to the weight although physically looked like chit in his last fight vs the way he looked against Collazo and Devon.

                    I'm sure there's more but that's all I can be bothered to comment on.

                    Guys who fight at the WW limit but can easily fight in lower weight classes.

                    Manny - Without his huge caloric diet he could easily make 140 and maybe even 135.
                    Rios - Way too much fat.
                    Maidana - Too much fat again.
                    Broner - Although he isn't fat he should trim down on his body building and fight at 140.

                    That's all I'll contribute at the moment. Peace.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by BoxingLegend89' View Post
                      Ppl are ******ed.... they think that because a fighter weighed 130 pounds when he was 13 year olds he will be a 130 pounder when he reaches 30 years old.

                      Some guy here posted that Golovkin in the amateurs weighed 140 pounds implying that GGG doesnt have to move up to 168 because he already moved up "3 divisions" in the amamteurs lol......... of course he did the guy was a ****ing teenager gtfoh.

                      PPl grow... its nature.

                      Tim is a full WW
                      Cotto is a lazy WW
                      Guerrero is a 135-140 pounder
                      Vargas is huge, the dude looks like a WW. Idk how he did 140

                      Ppl grow, whatever they weighed in the amateurs or when they turned pro is irrelevant. Their body will mature and they will fight at the weight they can make. Few exceptions like floyd, pacquiao and cotto who are fighting bigger guys out of their weight class.

                      Hell, Canelo fought at 140............................... yeah when he was 15 LOL.
                      Hes a full middleweight who cant make 154 and hides at 155.

                      "Floyd beat Canelo a 140 pounder" thats how stupid some ppl look when they talk about weigh classes.
                      Maybe you have reading comprehension problems but GGG is a 34 your old man. He's not some teenager fighting at 160 who's body stilling grow nor is he cutting extreme amount of weight to make 160.

                      If he turned pro at 18 he would have fought at 140. He didn't. He fought in the amateurs as he matured unlike someone like Cotto who turned pro early and cut massive amount of weight to make 140 at 21.

                      The guy is fighting at his max weight, so just get over it already.

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